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Old 09-25-2012, 02:22 PM   #44836
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Why would it ? are Frampton and the Tigers bay crowd Loyalists ?
Frampton is a protesant, but I don't know his politics and quite frankly don't want to know. But where is is from is a staunchly loyalist area, and has it's fair share of headbangers like a lot of other areas in Belfast. These guys should switch off their opinions for the night and enjoy the boxing, but I've a feeling that this might not happen.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:48 PM   #44837
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Frampton is a protesant, but I don't know his politics and quite frankly don't want to know. But where is is from is a staunchly loyalist area, and has it's fair share of headbangers like a lot of other areas in Belfast. These guys should switch off their opinions for the night and enjoy the boxing, but I've a feeling that this might not happen.
His fiancée is catholic, so it's extremely doubtfull that he's a sectarian bigot. He always comes across as a respectable young lad in interviews. I hope these "fans" cop the fúck on in future.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:06 PM   #44838
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His fiancée is catholic, so it's extremely doubtfull that he's a sectarian bigot. He always comes across as a respectable young lad in interviews. I hope these "fans" cop the fúck on in future.
I know Carl is not a bigot, he use to post on this thread until last year, and always came across as a nice kid.

But here is some of the scenes I was refering to, they are singing "the billy boys" at the end of the fracus

I hope we never see this again at a boxing match in Ireland.


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Old 09-25-2012, 03:22 PM   #44839
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I know Carl is not a bigot, he use to post on this thread until last year, and always came across as a nice kid.

But here is some of the scenes I was refering to, they are singing "the billy boys" at the end of the fracus

I hope we never see this again at a boxing match in Ireland.


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That looks fairly bad to be honest! The topless guy seems to punch a security guard at the start am I right? And also, at 1:20 is that blood on the floor?
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:19 PM   #44840
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St. James vs T Bay as far as I heard. Both blaming each other for provoking.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:31 PM   #44841
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County Down boxer Paul Quinn talks about turning pro and training in London

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Old 09-25-2012, 07:03 PM   #44842
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Frampton is a protesant, but I don't know his politics and quite frankly don't want to know. But where is is from is a staunchly loyalist area, and has it's fair share of headbangers like a lot of other areas in Belfast. These guys should switch off their opinions for the night and enjoy the boxing, but I've a feeling that this might not happen.
Didn't know that, i just assumed he was catholic/nationalist given he boxed for ireland and not GB in the ams
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #44843
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If they want to start getting physical with each other theres only one place for that - in the ring

hardly the actions of a real boxing fan this gang type alco induced beahviour.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:40 PM   #44844
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:13 AM   #44845
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Does anybody know what was exact money reason for fitzy pulling off show taught originally it was down to not being offered enough of a purse but heard today his team was looking for a 45percent cut of his purse for training/managing/promoting seems above the norm and doubt it's true but would be interesting to know the truth if anyone can shine some light on the situation??
No from day one Fitzy came out and said he couldn't agree a fee with his team, so that doesn't really read well for his career, he could be contracted to that team for a certain number of fights so if he can't agree fees he's still under contract or his contract could be for a certain time frame meaning he might just have to let it run down, either way he might not see any action for awhile.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:17 AM   #44846
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any one else here going to this tyson thing next month, dont really know what to expect any ideas ?????
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:05 AM   #44847
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No from day one Fitzy came out and said he couldn't agree a fee with his team, so that doesn't really read well for his career, he could be contracted to that team for a certain number of fights so if he can't agree fees he's still under contract or his contract could be for a certain time frame meaning he might just have to let it run down, either way he might not see any action for awhile.
Contracts work both ways though, if Fitz had agreed a figure with his team on signing the contract then they cant just jack up the figure,They could be in breach of contract and a half decent lawyer would make that contract null and void,
45% is a huge percentage i had heard the dolphil crew were giving up 33% that was for training and managment.which although high wasnt too much over the average 30% that seems to be the going rate for manager and trainer.
Is Fitz still with Phil i wonder?I know Phil is involved in KO promotions any idea who else is involved??
With out Dublin lads like Fitz on this show it will be hard to sell.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:09 PM   #44848
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Contracts work both ways though, if Fitz had agreed a figure with his team on signing the contract then they cant just jack up the figure,They could be in breach of contract and a half decent lawyer would make that contract null and void,
45% is a huge percentage i had heard the dolphil crew were giving up 33% that was for training and managment.which although high wasnt too much over the average 30% that seems to be the going rate for manager and trainer.
Is Fitz still with Phil i wonder?I know Phil is involved in KO promotions any idea who else is involved??
With out Dublin lads like Fitz on this show it will be hard to sell.
Yea doesnt seem possible that they could increase there percentage especially as it would be in his contract, seems bad move by fitz if its just down to wanting a bigger purse.
Near impossible for irish pros to keep busy down south as his inactivity shows he shouldve jumped at the fight, fair enough if the promotors are making money on these shows but there all lucky to break even so not practible to be demanding high purses.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:11 PM   #44849
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Does anybody know what was exact money reason for fitzy pulling off show taught originally it was down to not being offered enough of a purse but heard today his team was looking for a 45percent cut of his purse for training/managing/promoting seems above the norm and doubt it's true but would be interesting to know the truth if anyone can shine some light on the situation??
managers cut can be between 25%-33% obvioussly depending on who the manager is

trainers cut is around 10%

Thats at the top of the game with a world class team so 45% seems excessive considering the shit job they'e done promoting and managing him this past year....
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:20 PM   #44850
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Did you witness these scenes? I've heard two stories, one person told me it was Tigers Bay fighting St Jame's [ Dee Walsh supporters]. The other story was Tigers Bay fighting McCloskey supporters. It was obviously a sectarian incident, and one we could do without. I wouldn't like to think Carl Frampton future fights will become a no-go for nationalists.





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I was happy to see no trouble and even if i did I wouldnt let it put me off going to see Frampton fight....


You got to expect some trouble when people are on the beer all day you get at cards in the UK all the time......
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