Irish Boxing

[mickrick1]

Originally Posted by mickrick1

The only thing controversial about his last fight was that the referee didn't give all the rounds to McCloskey - I don't think Garnica laid a glove on him all night.

Apologies Sandwedge I think I misread your original post.

[sandwedge]

Originally Posted by mickrick1

Apologies Sandwedge I think I misread your original post.

no problem i meant paulie v herman njoudo

[sandwedge]

Originally Posted by mickrick1

Apologies Sandwedge I think I misread your original post.

no problem i meant paulie v herman njoudo

[slapbangwhallop]

Originally Posted by ardy

Shamrocks a loyal Irish man. I,m fed up showing Pavlik respect, when all you get is derisive remarks about Duddy in return by the American's. And I don't mean the Irish-Americans[ like ML, Sardu and others], that post on to this thread.So come on John, do the buisness tonight, and then your one step closer to your dream.

I know what you are saying Ardy but I disagee - I set out my thoughts in detail on the Pavlik v Duddy thread. I am not going to stoop to someone elses level because they are disrespecting Duddy - I would prefer to lay the facts infront of them and show them up as talking shit instead of trading insults.

Pavlik deserves the respect he gets - he's the champ, he's a good guy, he's got a good jab and a great overhand right = respect from me - that doesnt lessen my support for Duddy.

Infact if you think I dont support Duddy heres a wee story for ya - I just got engaged at Christmas and I only gave the wee wan a token ring with the idea of bringing her over to NYC and Tiffanys for the real thing - maybe I had it planned that I could double it up for it to coincidently coincide with the Duddy v Pavlik fight!!! Will I see ya there?

[ardy]

Originally Posted by slapbangwhallop

I know what you are saying Ardy but I disagee - I set out my thoughts in detail on the Pavlik v Duddy thread. I am not going to stoop to someone elses level because they are disrespecting Duddy - I would prefer to lay the facts infront of them and show them up as talking shit instead of trading insults.

Pavlik deserves the respect he gets - he's the champ, he's a good guy, he's got a good jab and a great overhand right = respect from me - that doesnt lessen my support for Duddy.

Infact if you think I dont support Duddy heres a wee story for ya - I just got engaged at Christmas and I only gave the wee wan a token ring with the idea of bringing her over to NYC and Tiffanys for the real thing - maybe I had it planned that I could double it up for it to coincidently coincide with the Duddy v Pavlik fight!!! Will I see ya there?

Slapbangwallop, people from my neck of the woods bite back, when someone "yanks" their chain.

Yes, Slapbangwallop, I hope to be there. In actual fact I have been trying to organise all day. The best price I have got flying out of Dublin and hotel is £565, not bad.

[onceagain]

I don't understand why y'all are so upset about Duddy being criticized here.

He's a very likable guy and has the heart of a warrior, but it's fair to say Pavlik is on another level right now. I enjoy watching Duddy fight but he gets hit often and I don't think that will fare well in the ring with someone like Kelly's power. Duddy does have a puncher's chance but he will need to seriously work on his defense (or get back to his basics - I heard he was a slick boxer in the ams).

There is also going to be a reaction amongst boxing fans (and American ones especially) to his huge popularity stateside. He is an exciting fighter but let's not kid ourselves - he sells out MSG and makes bank because he's a charismatic, attractive Irishman. If he was an ugly Mexican he wouldn't get a 1/10 of this hype and his career wouldn't be where it is. That's a bit frustrating to see as an American fan. I like the guy and do think he's a skilled boxer, but the majority of his appeal comes from playing to his looks and something Irish people complain about constantly: America's infatuation with Ireland/general plastic paddyness.

[ardy]

Originally Posted by onceagain

I don't understand why y'all are so upset about Duddy being criticized here.

He's a very likable guy and has the heart of a warrior, but it's fair to say Pavlik is on another level right now. I enjoy watching Duddy fight but he gets hit often and I don't think that will fare well in the ring with someone like Kelly's power. Duddy does have a puncher's chance but he will need to seriously work on his defense (or get back to his basics - I heard he was a slick boxer in the ams).

There is also going to be a reaction amongst boxing fans (and American ones especially) to his huge popularity stateside. He is an exciting fighter but let's not kid ourselves - he sells out MSG and makes bank because he's a charismatic, attractive Irishman. If he was an ugly Mexican he wouldn't get a 1/10 of this hype and his career wouldn't be where it is. That's a bit frustrating to see as an American fan. I like the guy and do think he's a skilled boxer, but the majority of his appeal comes from playing to his looks and something Irish people complain about constantly: America's infatuation with Ireland/general plastic paddyness.

I have no arguement with anything, you have said, and I fully expect you to support your man Pavlik. But it,s the guys who can on this site, spouting venom against Duddy I abhor. Constructive analytic criticism is one thing, hating is another.

[onceagain]

Originally Posted by ardy

I have no arguement with anything, you have said, and I fully expect you to support your man Pavlik. But it,s the guys who can on this site, spouting venom against Duddy I abhor. Constructive analytic criticism is one thing, hating is another.

You're right, he doesn't deserve that. There are just some folks here with no class. Look at the thread about Gatti & Pugilistic Dementia and that's clear as day.

Anyways, I look forward to watching him fight tonight (if I can find a stream that is). He's always an exciting fighter and it'll be interesting to see how he's improved (and whether or not those cuts near his eyes will open up again).

[ardy]

Originally Posted by onceagain

You're right, he doesn't deserve that. There are just some folks here with no class. Look at the thread about Gatti & Pugilistic Dementia and that's clear as day.

Anyways, I look forward to watching him fight tonight (if I can find a stream that is). He's always an exciting fighter and it'll be interesting to see how he's improved (and whether or not those cuts near his eyes will open up again).

Cheers mate, enjoy the fights

[Shamrock]

Originally Posted by ardy

Hello my pal Shamrock,I know Pipewrench won't agree with you there, as he is a massive Pavlik fan.But I think John can defeat Pavlik[it will be damm hard though].In the picture you posted Smichet looked a lot smaller than Duddy.

Smichet is just shorter Ardy, he weighs in heavier. I see it is the main support fight now, I might actually get to see it at irish pub.It should be televised being the fight before Klits.

[iceman]

Originally Posted by Shamrock

Smichet is just shorter Ardy, he weighs in heavier. I see it is the main support fight now, I might actually get to see it at irish pub.It should be televised being the fight before Klits.

It won't be shown.HBO are showing a replay of Pavlik/Taylor and then the main event.Its stupid if you ask me - why not show Duddy and the Joe Green fight, two exciting young middleweights

[ardy]

Originally Posted by iceman

It won't be shown.HBO are showing a replay of Pavlik/Taylor and then the main event.Its stupid if you ask me - why not show Duddy and the Joe Green fight, two exciting young middleweights

Duddy is on Sky TV

[iceman]

Originally Posted by Shamrock

Smichet is just shorter Ardy, he weighs in heavier. I see it is the main support fight now, I might actually get to see it at irish pub.It should be televised being the fight before Klits.

I just read somewhere that SKY arer showing the Duddy fight so you should get to see it.Hopefully i'll get to watch it on the internet

[Shamrock]

Originally Posted by slapbangwhallop

Duddy's chances against Kelly are underrated - well I suppose it makes a change from shamrock overratting him.

I think Smicht is a bit of a chump but not the type of guy that gets KO's easily. It would be a very good result for Duddy to KO him although I do think that if it goes to points then I see Duddy winning easily - more easily than the fight itself suggests

If you look back on this thread you should notice I have not overrated Duddy, I suggested he have a stepup between Smichet and Pavlik. However I think Duddy gets way uderrated outsde of this thread and I think he has a real chance against Pavlik, and I'll be trumping for that when it happens.

[Shamrock]

Originally Posted by iceman

I just read somewhere that SKY arer showing the Duddy fight so you should get to see it.Hopefully i'll get to watch it on the internet

Awesome