What if nazim richardson had not caught margrito's illegal handwrapping.............

02bash · 11-23-2011, 08:18 PM

What would be the state of boxing now, would margrito eventually get caught, would shane still have beaten him, how many more careers could margrito potentially have ruined? Pacqiuao? Floyd?

Arcane · 11-23-2011, 08:19 PM

Margarito couldn't land enough on Mosley to make an impact he was getting KTFO either way wraps or no wraps but the questions is how soon after the KO would he have made a return? and against who?

SJS19 · 11-23-2011, 08:21 PM

Margo couldn't get a fight with Floyd before losing to Mosley, how would he get one after?
Pacquaio has been very carefully matched too, I think he'd of stayed away from THAT Margo, just not the one who came back to Boxing.

cesare-borgia · 11-23-2011, 08:24 PM

Did anyone else feel margarito was totally off that night, I think him getting caught messed him up mentally as well.
Mosley would still have won though, and marg vs cotto 2 would already have happened.

cesare-borgia · 11-23-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SJS19

Margo couldn't get a fight with Floyd before losing to Mosley, how would he get one after?
Pacquaio has been very carefully matched too, I think he'd of stayed away from THAT Margo, just not the one who came back to Boxing.

Why? Pacquiao is matched inhouse or with fighters that are willing to join toprank.
Thats all bob arum cares about.

Post Box · 11-23-2011, 08:27 PM

I do think getting caught with wraps like that must have taken Tony out of his game that night. Mosley still would have won no doubt though

praetorianJJ · 11-23-2011, 08:32 PM

Am I right for thinking that Shane once held a record at lightweight for his KO ratio? Or am I just full of shit again?

Jack · 11-23-2011, 08:33 PM

There is no way that fight would have gone the same way had Margarito been mentally clear. In all fighters, determination and focus is needed from the first to last bell, however, with fighters like Margarito who are going to have to walk through fire, they need it even more. Margarito had none that night and was a punching back.

A focused Margarito beats Mosley.

02bash · 11-23-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Post Box

I do think getting caught with wraps like that must have taken Tony out of his game that night. Mosley still would have won no doubt though

I suppose, but then what would be next for margrito? would he go for cotto again.

SJS19 · 11-23-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cesare-borgia

Why? Pacquiao is matched inhouse or with fighters that are willing to join toprank.
Thats all bob arum cares about.

After the DLH win, Pacquaio wanted to fight Margarito, Roach told him no, he's too big.
Freddie Roach plays a much more important roll in selecting fights than people think.

Arcane · 11-23-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack

There is no way that fight would have gone the same way had Margarito been mentally clear. In all fighters, determination and focus is needed from the first to last bell, however, with fighters like Margarito who are going to have to walk through fire, they need it even more. Margarito had none that night and was a punching back.

A focused Margarito beats Mosley.

Can't agree with that, Mosley was more or less slipping and the Mayorga fight proved that but in Margarito he got the perfect fighter for his style someone who's looking to walk his opponent down and absorb punishment but Mosley is a fighter with tremendous power when he's given a chance to load up his shots and not even Marg's chin could withstand such a brutal onslaught, Mosley successfully neutralised Marg's power via his timed clinches and the rest is history.

praetorianJJ · 11-23-2011, 08:42 PM

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Can't agree with that, Mosley was more or less slipping and the Mayorga fight proved that but in Margarito he got the perfect fighter for his style someone who's looking to walk his opponent down and absorb punishment but Mosley is a fighter with tremendous power when he's given a chance to load up his shots and not even Marg's chin could withstand such a brutal onslaught, Mosley successfully neutralised Marg's power via his timed clinches and the rest is history.

Agreed. Mayorga and Margarito are different animals. Mayorga lasted twelve with Mosley because he has rudimentary skills that Margarito lacks.

Post Box · 11-23-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 02bash

I suppose, but then what would be next for margrito? would he go for cotto again.

Yeah if he got to Cotto again before the Pacquiao bout then that fight would have been alot harder to call then December 3rd.

Arcane · 11-23-2011, 08:49 PM

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Agreed. Mayorga and Margarito are different animals. Mayorga lasted twelve with Mosley because he has rudimentary skills that Margarito lacks.

Margarito has no head movement, no foot movement (his success in walking down his opponents normally comes from wearing them out when they want to stand and trade), no hip movement (he never tries to move to the side or to roll punches) he's the perfect example of a stationary target he makes Ricky Hatton look like Pernell Whitaker. His strongest assets are his chin (overall ability to take punishment) and his heart and in Mosley he countered someone with enough power to really hurt him and that was the end of it nothing to do with being mentally unprepared, no version of Margarito past or present beats Mosley.

Post Box · 11-23-2011, 08:51 PM

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Yeah if he got to Cotto again before the Pacquiao bout then that fight would have been alot harder to call then December 3rd.

I need to check this post in the morning I've got a feeling it makes no sense at all. It makes sense in my head right now so that's all that matters

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Jack P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England Posts: 18,877 vCash: 15000	Re: What if nazim richardson had not caught margrito's illegal handwrapping.......... There is no way that fight would have gone the same way had Margarito been mentally clear. In all fighters, determination and focus is needed from the first to last bell, however, with fighters like Margarito who are going to have to walk through fire, they need it even more. Margarito had none that night and was a punching back. A focused Margarito beats Mosley.
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