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Old 11-26-2011, 10:00 AM   #16
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It's the difference between making 100million and 96million (for the sake of easy maths)
at 3m ppv at 60 a piece that amounts to ~180m. half goes to network/cable operators.

then floyd pac split the rest, is this right? 2-3m is going to **** up the fight, just like the 7day cutoff.

edit: i get what you mean. but you are not making the right comparison.

lets say has 100m total to be split by pac-may:

orig split (50/50): pac=50m, floyd=50m (very obvious)

proposed new split(52/4: floyd=52m (vs. 50m original), pac=48m (vs. 50m original)

so in reality, the difference here than originally proposed, is actually only 2m (or 2%), which isnt much considering they prolly going to get ~70-80m (including guaranteed purse for each)

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Old 11-26-2011, 10:03 AM   #17
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No source = OP rape.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:03 AM   #18
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It's the difference between making 100million and 96million (for the sake of easy maths)
Yeah, I get that.

But it's also another stumbling block to a fight which has already see too many. Everything else has been agreed on, so why now throw in this silly request, when 50-50 has been reasonable all along.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:05 AM   #19
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at 3m ppv at 60 a piece that amounts to ~180m. half goes to network/cable operators.

then floyd pac split the rest, is this right? 2-3m is going to **** up the fight, just like the 7day cutoff.
It's probably a bit more complicated, for instance when Mayweather fought Hatton, Hatton got all the British TV rights, which worked out at 15million (which Hatton would have split with sky)

Then there's the site fee, world rights, etc, etc, etc.

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Yeah, I get that.

But it's also another stumbling block to a fight which has already see too many. Everything else has been agreed on, so why now throw in this silly request, when 50-50 has been reasonable all along.
Yea I don't think it's that big a deal or a massive stumbling back, doesn't Mayweather average 10% higher or more in his PPVs? Pacquaio/Arum put the same stumbling block in against Hatton btw

Again I don't even know if this is real, the OP is a Mayweather supporter
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:08 AM   #20
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If Floyd does want more than 50 it will end up being 51-49
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:10 AM   #21
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:11 AM   #22
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But I think it would be a very good compromise with a 21 day cut off rather than up to the fight.
But there's nothing there to compromise. If this was back in 2009 where Pac was still at 21 days, then yes, I can understand the offer. But right now, Pac agreed to complete random testing ages ago. It's no longer an issue. Even Ellerbe has acknowledged this. So it makes no sense for Mayweather to say "Aight, lil' fella'. Make it 21 days, and give us mo' money". It's not necessary.

But **** it. We're arguing over something that isn't even true
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:13 AM   #23
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source?

if this is true, where are the flomos who say that testing with no cut-off is non negotiable and floyd is ok with 50-50 and not pricing himself out?
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:13 AM   #24
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If Floyd does want more than 50 it will end up being 51-49
prolly 51-50 or 52-50 where the other 1-2% comes from arum. i think they did this on pac-hatton or pac-hoya, iirc.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:14 AM   #26
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Yea I don't think it's that big a deal or a massive stumbling back, doesn't Mayweather average 10% higher or more in his PPVs? Pacquaio/Arum put the same stumbling block in against Hatton btw

Again I don't even know if this is real, the OP is a Mayweather supporter
That wasn't Arum's doing. That was just Manny's. Hatton still got his 50%, and Arum had to dig into his own pocket to compensate.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:15 AM   #27
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Mayweather does not deserve more than 50-50.

Floyd's last 3 PPVs:
1.05 vs JMM
1.4 vs Mosley
1.25 vs Ortiz

Manny's last 3 PPVs:
1.15 vs Margarito
1.3 vs Mosley
1.5(?) vs JMM


If anyone should be asking for more it's Manny, but 50-50 is fine. They're neck and neck no matter how you look at it, there's really no solid argument to put one over the other. Either fighter asking for more than 50% is bullshit imo.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:15 AM   #28
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..and pursuing 52-48 split, not 60-40.
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:16 AM   #29
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That wasn't Arum's doing. That was just Manny's. Hatton still got his 50%, and Arum had to dig into his own pocket to compensate.
Because Arum probably got about 30-40% of that 52%
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But there's nothing there to compromise. If this was back in 2009 where Pac was still at 21 days, then yes, I can understand the offer. But right now, Pac agreed to complete random testing ages ago. It's no longer an issue. Even Ellerbe has acknowledged this. So it makes no sense for Mayweather to say "Aight, lil' fella'. Make it 21 days, and give us mo' money". It's not necessary.

But **** it. We're arguing over something that isn't even true


But I also did say this part in my post:

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But yes, "solely" to blame is a bit harsh. 50-50 and a 14 day cut off, and then I'd stick by my statement.
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