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Old 11-27-2011, 11:24 AM   #1
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Default why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

first off i do think that martinez is the best
middleweight based on skill, power,proformace etc

but why do they keep pretending he has beaten the best middleweights
and does not too fight the other top guys/"belt holders"

by the way any champion who is an hbo boy
is a "belt holder"
and their guy is always the champion

beat line
the top middleweights

pirog
strum
macklin
etc etc

not one of the top 6-7 guys in the divison
has been fought by martinez

he has beaten mainly jr. middleweights
and darren baker

who is good but the is the 3rd best middleweight
in england
behind macklin and super G
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

I think they're referring to Pav & PDub when they claim that.

I hope Pirog moves to the US someday. I wonder how long HBO will hold a grudge against him for taking Jacobs out...
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:58 AM   #3
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Protecting their investment
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:58 AM   #4
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

i think floyd should fight martinez.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:06 PM   #5
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

The only other Middleweight that appears to be worth something is Pirog. And his big claim to fame is a win over Danny Jacobs.

P. Williams, Pavlik, Dzinzruk, Barker > Jacobs.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:09 PM   #6
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

Macklin, Sturm, Pirog all would be tough for him. I don't think Sturm would fight him.

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i think floyd should fight martinez.
but at 160. Oscar and Trinidad went up for Hopkins, no catchweight, there against really a light heavyweight. Sergio is not that big either.
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:50 PM   #7
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

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i think floyd should fight martinez.
i think pacquiao should fight floyd
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Old 11-27-2011, 12:55 PM   #8
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

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The only other Middleweight that appears to be worth something is Pirog. And his big claim to fame is a win over Danny Jacobs.

P. Williams, Pavlik, Dzinzruk, Barker > Jacobs.
You can take Williams out of the list. He sux at middleweight and would lose most of the top10 to be honest.

And Dzin too. he has been all his career at light middleweight
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:20 AM   #9
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

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You can take Williams out of the list. He sux at middleweight and would lose most of the top10 to be honest.

And Dzin too. he has been all his career at light middleweight

thank you for pointing this out,


2. Felix Sturm
3. Dimitry Pirog
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Marco Antonio Rubio
6. Daniel Geale
7. Osumanu Adama
8. Grzegorz Proksa
9. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
10. Nobuhiro Ishida
11. Darren Barker
12. Hassan N’Dam N’Jikam
13. Sebastian Zbik
14. Daniel Jacobs
15. David Lemieux
16. Matthew Macklin


fightnews rankings


martinez has only fought number 11 on this list lol
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:30 AM   #10
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

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You can take Williams out of the list. He sux at middleweight and would lose most of the top10 to be honest.

And Dzin too. he has been all his career at light middleweight

thank you for pointing this out,


2. Felix Sturm
3. Dimitry Pirog
4. Gennady Golovkin
5. Marco Antonio Rubio
6. Daniel Geale
7. Osumanu Adama
8. Grzegorz Proksa
9. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr
10. Nobuhiro Ishida
11. Darren Barker
12. Hassan N’Dam N’Jikam
13. Sebastian Zbik
14. Daniel Jacobs
15. David Lemieux
16. Matthew Macklin


fightnews rankings


martinez has only fought number 11 on this list lol
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:34 AM   #11
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

Pavlik was the linear champ when Martinez fought him and Williams was top 3. I have no idea why you'd trust the "fightnews rankings" as an authoritative source, but look at what they were right after Martinez beat Pavlik: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:37 AM   #12
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i think floyd should fight martinez.
manny should fight Floyd
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:39 AM   #13
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manny should fight Floyd
no negotiation part2.

floyd has to man up and accept 30%, or he is forever labeled a ducker.
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Old 11-28-2011, 12:41 AM   #14
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

You seem to forget that some of those guys do not want to fight Martinez!
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Old 11-28-2011, 02:25 AM   #15
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Default Re: why does hbo pretend that Martinez has fought the best middleweights????

Nobody wants to fight Martinez!!! Void refuses to fight Martinez also! Martinez is the best!!!
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