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Old 11-28-2011, 11:57 PM   #16
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To be fair was he still that Prime ATG Barrera or The end of the career Barrera?????
The Barrera that beat JMM after losing to Pacquaio is an awesome fighter.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:08 AM   #17
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don't take Mayweather's statement literally. I support him but not everything he says makes sense. Especially when he compares himself beating heavyweights to what Pacquiao has done
I am in Shock! "I support him but not everything he says makes sense."
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:16 AM   #18
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...then why did Pacquiao win his first world championship at age 19 but it took Mayweather until age 21 to win his?

In fact, Pacquiao was a two-division world champion with six title defenses before he turned 25 years old.

That's an "ordinary" fighter?

I am sure Mayweather is basing his claims on Pac's overall skills back then and not his resume. Winning a title isn't necessarily a jaw-dropping feat. Hence the term, "paper champ." I think the key, in Mayweather's eyes, is Pac's meteoric rise going from a struggle against Marquez to demolishing Diaz, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and so on. I could be wrong but in the lower weights MP never destroyed guys in the manner in which he stopped Hatton.

I happen to think it's more about tailor made opponents than Pac's explosive power. But some people are questioning how MP suddenly achieved more power and speed and I don't think that's too crazy. The fact that Pac once turned down random blood tests doesn't help his case. A lot of questions including PED involvement will be answered once the mega fight is established and completed.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:18 AM   #19
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Don't worry, you are not worth making a tread entirely dedicated to you.

I am just wondering why the moderators deleted that thread. I was enjoying owning all of you bitches.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:20 AM   #20
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Because with 17 weight divisions and 5 organizations getting a gift title does not mean a thing. Factor in the interim, diamond, super champions as well as the catchweight crap and Roid's 8 division titles don't mean shit.
Well with that logic, Pac's record will be broken by many in no time.

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Old 11-29-2011, 12:29 AM   #21
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Don't worry, you are not worth making a tread entirely dedicated to you.

I am just wondering why the moderators deleted that thread. I was enjoying owning all of you bitches.
what thread
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:58 AM   #22
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I am sure Mayweather is basing his claims on Pac's overall skills back then and not his resume. Winning a title isn't necessarily a jaw-dropping feat. Hence the term, "paper champ." I think the key, in Mayweather's eyes, is Pac's meteoric rise going from a struggle against Marquez to demolishing Diaz, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and so on. I could be wrong but in the lower weights MP never destroyed guys in the manner in which he stopped Hatton.

I happen to think it's more about tailor made opponents than Pac's explosive power. But some people are questioning how MP suddenly achieved more power and speed and I don't think that's too crazy. The fact that Pac once turned down random blood tests doesn't help his case. A lot of questions including PED involvement will be answered once the mega fight is established and completed.
Paper champ? After beating Barrera he was a 2 weight division lineal champ. That's about as un-paper as you can get.

And yes, he did demolish guys at the lower weights. A good testament to his power at the lower weights is the fact that to drop his opponents (and he dropped them a lot) he didn't need to land one of those "right on the button, didn't see it coming punches". He just needed to land a straight left and you would go down.

Seriously, this myth that he is just as strong a puncher now or even stronger than he was at 130 and below has got to stop. He was Manny "the Destroyer" Pacquiao back then, and rightly so. I remember back then, people were worried he didin't have the stamina to go he full 12 because he always ended fights early. He was faster and stronger back then. (stronger in a P4P sense obviously)

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Old 11-29-2011, 02:59 AM   #23
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I hope Pac/Roach's plan has worked, but we will see...............I will not hold my breath, esp. if Void catches on........................

Let Void fight Vitali or Vlad next, since he claims to beat all the heavyweights, Hell, I would pay to see that................
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:08 AM   #24
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I hope Floyd/Roger's plan has worked, but we will see...............I will not hold my breath, esp. if Roid catches on........................

Let Roid fight Sergio next, since he claims to beat all the records, Hell, I would pay to see that................
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:14 AM   #25
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...then why did Pacquiao win his first world championship at age 19 but it took Mayweather until age 21 to win his?

In fact, Pacquiao was a two-division world champion with six title defenses before he turned 25 years old.

That's an "ordinary" fighter?


this is normal for the mayweathers to say stupid things and people are suppose to give them pass since they are the mayweathers.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:18 AM   #26
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...then why did Pacquiao win his first world championship at age 19 but it took Mayweather until age 21 to win his?

In fact, Pacquiao was a two-division world champion with six title defenses before he turned 25 years old.

That's an "ordinary" fighter?

Pacquiao was knocked out before and after he won his first world title so in essence Floyd was correct.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:20 AM   #27
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this is normal for the mayweathers to say stupid things and people are suppose to give them pass since they are the mayweathers.
are you foreal?

What would happen if Floyd had this interview?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCa1-X7ey5Y[/ame]

or what would happen if Floyd turned down the fight because he didn't want to be weakened by a drug test that he and his opponent will take
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:21 AM   #28
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I am sure Mayweather is basing his claims on Pac's overall skills back then and not his resume. Winning a title isn't necessarily a jaw-dropping feat. Hence the term, "paper champ." I think the key, in Mayweather's eyes, is Pac's meteoric rise going from a struggle against Marquez to demolishing Diaz, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and so on. I could be wrong but in the lower weights MP never destroyed guys in the manner in which he stopped Hatton.

I happen to think it's more about tailor made opponents than Pac's explosive power. But some people are questioning how MP suddenly achieved more power and speed and I don't think that's too crazy. The fact that Pac once turned down random blood tests doesn't help his case. A lot of questions including PED involvement will be answered once the mega fight is established and completed.
have you seen the julio or the lucero fights? do you know his first nickname before pacman when he was not yet known in the west? his ****ing nickname is "the destroyer".
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:23 AM   #29
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are you foreal?

What would happen if Floyd had this interview?
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

or what would happen if Floyd turned down the fight because he didn't want to be weakened by a drug test that he and his opponent will take
well floyd has worst video which was a video of himself saying stupid racist shits while saying that he has "no urge" to fight. but i won't post it since we all know it already and you guys refuse to acknowledge that it exist.
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Old 11-29-2011, 11:26 AM   #30
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Hmm, known Mayweather critics have resorted to picking apart meaningless statements from Mayweather. I wonder why?
It's really all they have left.
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