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Old 12-02-2011, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default Wait A Second: Did Mayweather Adviser Leonard Ellerbe Just Get Caught In A Huge Lie?!

Now, I'm not asserting that close-knit Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe is a bald-face liar, but there is a story here that is being lost in all of the hub-bub of the latest Pacquiao-Mayweather apparent negotiations.

On November 27, 2011, Tim Smith of the New York Daily News wrote the following piece:

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In that piece, the now-famous trip by Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz to the Mayweather gym in Las Vegas was discussed. Here's what Ellerbe said at the time about that visit by Koncz:

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"Floyd doesn't know Michael Koncz from a high school basketball player from Biloxi, Miss.”

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"I don't know why he came by the gym other than the fact that a lot of people like to come by the gym and meet Floyd,” Ellerbe said. Ellerbe said they couldn't have talked business with Koncz even if they had wanted to.

"To the best of my knowledge Bob Arum is Manny Pacquiao's promoter and Bob Arum is the only authorized to negotiation on behalf of Pacquiao,” Ellerbe said.
Ok, so what Ellerbe is saying here is:

- Floyd had no idea who Koncz was
- Ellerbe had no idea why Koncz came to the gym that day

The implication in all of this was that, possibly, Team Mayweather and/or Team Pacquiao was going around Golden Boy Promotions (whom Mayweather often teams up with for fights) in order to try to make a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout.

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Now, fast forward a day to November 28, 2011. The following piece was done by Ring Magazine:

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In this article, the CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, Richard Schaefer, seems to be claiming that Arum is lying about supposedly meeting and negotiating with Team Mayweather.

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"The boxing fans are really sick and tired about the lies of Bob Arum," Schaefer told RingTV.com. "The fact is that yesterday he was lying, today he's lying, and tomorrow, he will still be lying. Once a liar, always a liar.

"Now, he comes again with these bulls__t stories about negotiations and meetings taking place. Who the heck is he fooling?"
The implication from Schaefer here appears to be that Arum is lying about potential negotiations/meetings taking place between Team Pac and Team Floyd. Which also means, by extension, that Schaefer isn't questioning -- or is accepting -- what Leonard Ellerbe says. That is, there was no particular reason why Michael Koncz showed up at the Mayweather gym, and Floyd doesn't even know who Koncz is.

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Now, today's bombshell news.

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The following comments are from a press release by the Falcon Hawk Entertainment group:

The meeting with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz last November 23, 2011 at Floyd’s Gym, Las Vegas, Nevada, was indeed a successful breakthrough amidst the ongoing saga of speculations of Pacquiao and Mayweather fight.

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Conversation between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz at the gym meeting was a confirmation by both camps to move forward with negotiations after Falcon Hawk Entertainment assured through its investors to work along side with Bob Arum’s Top Rank and Mayweather Promotions to bring the successful Welterweight Fight of the Century.

Wow. Wow.

Let's review what Ellerbe said above:

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"Floyd doesn't know Michael Koncz from a high school basketball player from Biloxi, Miss.”

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"I don't know why he came by the gym other than the fact that a lot of people like to come by the gym and meet Floyd,” Ellerbe said.
Based upon the press release by Falcon Hawk Entertainment, then, it sure looks like Ellerbe may have been lying when he apparently spoke the above words to Tim Smith of the New York Daily News.

Or, to put it more fairly, it sounds like either Ellerbe is lying or Falcon Hawk Entertainment is lying.

If the Falcon Hawk Entertainment version of events at the Mayweather gym on November 23, 2011 is accurate, then it sure sounds like Mayweather knew who Koncz was.

And it sure sounds as though Leonard Ellerbe would have known why Koncz was at the gym that day, unless Falcon Hawk Entertainment is more in-the-loop with Floyd Mayweather, Jr. than is Leonard Ellerbe.

This does not look so good from a Team Mayweather perspective, I think. Particularly as regards Golden Boy Promotions.

It's one thing for Bob Arum to supposedly try to go around Golden Boy. Though the two sides recently called a truce to their unofficial battle, there is not a lot of built-up good will towards one another, it would appear.

However, it is another thing entirely, I feel, for Team Mayweather to possibly try to cut-out Golden Boy, their frequent fight promotion partner. Or to potentially misrepresent alleged negotiations as being nonexistent when they may have, in fact, took place.

Get your popcorn ready, folks. I have a feeling this story is just getting started.

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Old 12-02-2011, 07:48 PM   #2
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They confirmed that Floyd didn't know who Koncz was until he introduced himself. Can you prove otherwise
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:52 PM   #3
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They confirmed that Floyd didn't know who Koncz was until he introduced himself. Can you prove otherwise
"I don't know why (Koncz) came by the gym other than the fact that a lot of people like to come by the gym and meet Floyd,” Ellerbe said.

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Old 12-02-2011, 07:53 PM   #4
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"I don't know why (Koncz) came by the gym other than the fact that a lot of people like to come by the gym and meet Floyd,” Ellerbe said.

Didn't they say Knoncz only spoke about the deal with Jr. and Roger? So maybe Ellerbe was just ignorant to what's going on or maybe he was implying that he can't do business with Koncz since he's not the promoter
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:57 PM   #5
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Didn't they say Knoncz only spoke about the deal with Jr. and Roger? So maybe Ellerbe was just ignorant to what's going on or maybe he was implying that he can't do business with Koncz since he's not the promoter


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Old 12-02-2011, 08:00 PM   #6
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You interested in some bridge property in Manhattan?
for how much?
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:20 PM   #7
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for how much?
Ha ha ha!

Let's say I get, I don't know, maybe $75 million.

Isn't that what Pac and PBF were promised by another group of investors?

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Old 12-02-2011, 08:20 PM   #8
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Ellerbe needs to....sit down with his tight pants.
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People lie all the time.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:25 PM   #11
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Who the hell is Falcon Hawk Entertainment? Why hasn't any mainstream sites(i.e ESPN, Yahoo, SI) reported on this?
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:29 PM   #12
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NO. Arum is the ONLY ONE capable of lying. - Flomos
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:31 PM   #13
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flomos: ellerbe is always telling the truth. greenburg is a liar.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:37 PM   #15
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Falcon hawk entertainment has no Internet presence. No information can be found that this is a legitimate company. Google it...closest thing to it is a gay porn company falcon entertainment.
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