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Old 12-02-2011, 08:41 PM   #16
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Ellerbe's a lying prick just like the rest of them. Can't believe the Floyd fans here believed him when he said Koncz just turned up to take pictures and that noone was aware of who he was.

Anyway, Paulfv, you should also mention that Roger Mayweather confirmed that Koncz was there to talk about the fight.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:44 PM   #17
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Ellerbe has already been caught in bold-faced lie in the past:

1) "Floyd has never injected anything in to his hands". Oh RLY?

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Old 12-02-2011, 08:46 PM   #18
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Team Mayweather is full if lies. Only a baboon would believe any of the garbage that comes out of their mouths.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:48 PM   #19
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Falcon hawk entertainment has no Internet presence. No information can be found that this is a legitimate company. Google it...closest thing to it is a gay porn company falcon entertainment.
Yeah, I tried googling them and nothing came up about them except the articles from the examiner, boxing scene and written by Michael Marley(what a coincidence). They mention Joe Jackson as one of the investors, and one article claims that he's THE Joe Jackson(meaning Michel Jackson's dad). Another article claims that he's Miss Jackson's Uncle. The whole story seems odd.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:55 PM   #20
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Though the two sides recently called a truce to their unofficial battle, there is not a lot of built-up good will towards one another, it would appear.
Arum decided the truce was over when they put up a freebie card against his PPV.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:59 PM   #21
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Falcon hawk entertainment has no Internet presence. No information can be found that this is a legitimate company. Google it...closest thing to it is a gay porn company falcon entertainment.
So Elerbee knows these guys then?
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:00 PM   #22
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Ellerbe's a lying prick just like the rest of them. Can't believe the Floyd fans here believed him when he said Koncz just turned up to take pictures and that noone was aware of who he was.

Anyway, Paulfv, you should also mention that Roger Mayweather confirmed that Koncz was there to talk about the fight.
Thanks for that. Got a link? I saw it, too, just can't remember where I saw it.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:02 PM   #23
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Yeah, I tried googling them and nothing came up about them except the articles from the examiner, boxing scene and written by Michael Marley(what a coincidence). They mention Joe Jackson as one of the investors, and one article claims that he's THE Joe Jackson(meaning Michel Jackson's dad). Another article claims that he's Miss Jackson's Uncle. The whole story seems odd.
I think Falcon may have been put together specifically to try to land this fight. I'm not sure about that, though. If that is the case, then it probably doesn't have any real internet presence, etc.

I can't find any info on Donny Rucker, though. Like nothing.

Joe Jackson (Michael's dad) is supposedly in on this, and he is also supposedly Miss Jackson's (Floyd's fiance) uncle.

Small world, I guess.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:03 PM   #24
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Arum decided the truce was over when they put up a freebie card against his PPV.
Ah, ok. Thanks for the info!
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:08 PM   #25
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Thanks for that. Got a link? I saw it, too, just can't remember where I saw it.
It was on the Scene of Boxing.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:10 PM   #26
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I think Falcon may have been put together specifically to try to land this fight. I'm not sure about that, though. If that is the case, then it probably doesn't have any real internet presence, etc.

I can't find any info on Donny Rucker, though. Like nothing.

Joe Jackson (Michael's dad) is supposedly in on this, and he is also supposedly Miss Jackson's (Floyd's fiance) uncle.

Small world, I guess.
In other words, they've just made it up?
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:12 PM   #27
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Now, I'm not asserting that close-knit Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe is a bald-face liar, but there is a story here that is being lost in all of the hub-bub of the latest Pacquiao-Mayweather apparent negotiations.

On November 27, 2011, Tim Smith of the New York Daily News wrote the following piece:

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In that piece, the now-famous trip by Pacquiao adviser Michael Koncz to the Mayweather gym in Las Vegas was discussed. Here's what Ellerbe said at the time about that visit by Koncz:

Ok, so what Ellerbe is saying here is:

- Floyd had no idea who Koncz was
- Ellerbe had no idea why Koncz came to the gym that day

The implication in all of this was that, possibly, Team Mayweather and/or Team Pacquiao was going around Golden Boy Promotions (whom Mayweather often teams up with for fights) in order to try to make a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout.

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Now, fast forward a day to November 28, 2011. The following piece was done by Ring Magazine:

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In this article, the CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, Richard Schaefer, seems to be claiming that Arum is lying about supposedly meeting and negotiating with Team Mayweather.

The implication from Schaefer here appears to be that Arum is lying about potential negotiations/meetings taking place between Team Pac and Team Floyd. Which also means, by extension, that Schaefer isn't questioning -- or is accepting -- what Leonard Ellerbe says. That is, there was no particular reason why Michael Koncz showed up at the Mayweather gym, and Floyd doesn't even know who Koncz is.

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Now, today's bombshell news.

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The following comments are from a press release by the Falcon Hawk Entertainment group:

The meeting with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz last November 23, 2011 at Floyd’s Gym, Las Vegas, Nevada, was indeed a successful breakthrough amidst the ongoing saga of speculations of Pacquiao and Mayweather fight.

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Conversation between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Michael Koncz at the gym meeting was a confirmation by both camps to move forward with negotiations after Falcon Hawk Entertainment assured through its investors to work along side with Bob Arum’s Top Rank and Mayweather Promotions to bring the successful Welterweight Fight of the Century.

Wow. Wow.

Let's review what Ellerbe said above:

Based upon the press release by Falcon Hawk Entertainment, then, it sure looks like Ellerbe may have been lying when he apparently spoke the above words to Tim Smith of the New York Daily News.

Or, to put it more fairly, it sounds like either Ellerbe is lying or Falcon Hawk Entertainment is lying.

If the Falcon Hawk Entertainment version of events at the Mayweather gym on November 23, 2011 is accurate, then it sure sounds like Mayweather knew who Koncz was.

And it sure sounds as though Leonard Ellerbe would have known why Koncz was at the gym that day, unless Falcon Hawk Entertainment is more in-the-loop with Floyd Mayweather, Jr. than is Leonard Ellerbe.

This does not look so good from a Team Mayweather perspective, I think. Particularly as regards Golden Boy Promotions.

It's one thing for Bob Arum to supposedly try to go around Golden Boy. Though the two sides recently called a truce to their unofficial battle, there is not a lot of built-up good will towards one another, it would appear.

However, it is another thing entirely, I feel, for Team Mayweather to possibly try to cut-out Golden Boy, their frequent fight promotion partner. Or to potentially misrepresent alleged negotiations as being nonexistent when they may have, in fact, took place.

Get your popcorn ready, folks. I have a feeling this story is just getting started.

Hold on hold on hold on.... I mean, u r not seriouss about this, right?? You probably have way too much time in your hands to make such a long post about this senseless blabbering of team pac with "proof" from a funky site... BTW, thx 4 the info... NOT. And like they say, " cool story bro."
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #28
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This one was good Paul.

I tell you why it doesn't matter though its like you can't tell the difference between what's yours. And what they do.

None of us was there to know what was actually said at the time maybe Ellerbe didn't want to discuss business to the public? Who knows, but either way this fight is going to happen.

And the truth will be revealed...

Then ya'll can become Amir Khan fans.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #29
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In other words, they've just made it up?
I think that the organization may have just been created. I don't think it's made up, but you never know.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:16 PM   #30
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Yeah, I tried googling them and nothing came up about them except the articles from the examiner, boxing scene and written by Michael Marley(what a coincidence). They mention Joe Jackson as one of the investors, and one article claims that he's THE Joe Jackson(meaning Michel Jackson's dad). Another article claims that he's Miss Jackson's Uncle. The whole story seems odd.
This story originated with Marley and is probably bs. Google don Rucker music producer. You get nothing. Joe Jackson ain't investing in shit. That brother gets an allowance from Katherine Jackson.
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