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Old 12-07-2011, 06:04 PM   #31
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Default Re: What would Cotto need to do to surpass Tito???

Canelo, plus Chavez at 160, plus Martinez would do it, I think.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:23 PM   #32
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He definitely has the opposition in front of him to be able to do it. Now can he do it? Well thats the question.

Beating Chavez and Martinez he would definitely be close. Avenging the Pac defeat plus Canelo and he surpasses him IMO.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:48 PM   #33
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Well, he would have had to defend his belt 10 plus times, then unify it with the p4p best boxer in the world which is Manny or Floyd right now, then move up in weight, unify it in that division with Alvarez and JCC Jr, fight Sturm for a middleweight belt, but lose to Martinez for the undisputed title, retire.. come back.. fight someone like Kirkland, beat him, retire for a little again, come back.. then lose to someone like Mayweather or something, retire again.. come back like 5 years later.. and fight someone like Ward, lose to him.. and then retire for good.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:48 PM   #34
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Beating FLoyd and thats is that. Beating PAC is very possible if Cotto would simply box him and stop trying to out muscle him.
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:48 PM   #35
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too late ...he cant
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:50 PM   #36
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too late ...he cant
Tito had a good reign, but not so spectucular where Cotto cannot catch him. He wins a title at 160 and with the win over Mosley and Margarito and the titles, he looks pretty good.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:01 PM   #37
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I really don't think he could surpass Tito, plus his personality, that we see, wouldn't allow it. He accomplished a lot already in the sport, but gets nowhere near the attention that Tito got, and still gets. Despite the accomplishments, he doesn't seem to be very outgoing nor willing to want the spotlight like Tito. I'm not on la isla anymore, so I can't see how he's viewed over there, but I don't see him able to ever surpass Tito.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:22 PM   #38
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wow look at the height!
always said that cotto shouldve started his career at 135 and should be at 140 or just moving up to 147 right now... he was a fat kid but if he wouldve hired a dietitian and taken better care of himself in between fights he couldve made those weights easily

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Old 12-07-2011, 09:25 PM   #39
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always said that cotto shouldve started his career at 135 and should be at 140 or just moving up to 147 right now... he was a fat kid but if he wouldve hired a dietitian and taken better care of himself in between fights he couldve made those weights easily

To be fair his frame does look like it's intended to whole a lot of weight. Genetics can be a bitch.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:25 PM   #40
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IF he miraculously beat Floyd and Pacquiao he would rank higher IMO. Impossible tasks though.


Beating Canelo and Chavez Jr means jack ****ing shit. Nearly irrelevant.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:28 PM   #41
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The answer is pretty simple actually.

Beating Pac and Mayweather would without a doubt make him greater then Trinidad.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:34 PM   #42
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maybe he could've beat pac if he boxed a more dicipline fight like maequez?..or am i dreamin?
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:36 PM   #43
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He'd be a top 20 ATG cleaning 1,2,3 P4P title holders in a span of 2 years.
Beating Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Martinez wouldn't make Cotto a 20 all-time great. None of those guys are special fighters at the weight they're currently competing at. It'd make Cotto an all-time great, but not a top 20 guy.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:00 PM   #44
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perception is a bitch so he can surpass tito easily if he keeps winning, a lot of times you win you are elevated and the loser gets downgraded.... this is the sport of what have you done for me lately,,, just look at all the love cotto is receiving here now

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Old 12-07-2011, 10:12 PM   #45
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Beating Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Martinez wouldn't make Cotto a 20 all-time great. None of those guys are special fighters at the weight they're currently competing at. It'd make Cotto an all-time great, but not a top 20 guy.
Not that I disagree with you, but it's funny how so many people (pactards mainly) consider Pac a top 20 ATG.
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