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Old 12-08-2011, 02:01 AM   #16
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Default Re: Why no love for T. Cloud?

There's clouds of smoke around his career...
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Old 12-08-2011, 02:04 AM   #17
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Yeah I agree....terrific fighter.
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Old 12-08-2011, 02:07 AM   #18
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I like Cloud, look forward to his next fight.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:09 AM   #19
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he's a lot better than Andrade ever was. much more athletic for a start
A LHW who gets jabbed clean and outfoxed by a MW for the better part of an entire fight is not exactly "a lot better than Andrade"... for a start.

It should have been Cloud KO2 Zuniga, and it wasn't.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:26 AM   #20
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A LHW who gets jabbed clean and outfoxed by a MW for the better part of an entire fight is not exactly "a lot better than Andrade"... for a start.

It should have been Cloud KO2 Zuniga, and it wasn't.
Andrade is/was a ****ing bum who has zero skills and is about as athletic as a corpse. he gets by on with his physicality nothing else. Cloud actually knows how to get leverage on his punches
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:19 AM   #21
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King is allowing him to 'die on the vine'.

Don has slipped, Cloud's career and likely best years are passing by without a high profile fight.

Showtime canceling the 31st bouts has to be frustrating as well.

Damn shame really.
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Old 12-08-2011, 04:28 AM   #22
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He's not fighting anyone. It's not like he's super talented. He's a tough gritty guy that makes for entertaining fights. He should be the guy that fights everyone to build his fan base.
No way dude, he's an entertaining fighter that people would be worried about fighting, however due to his fan base it is quite a risky fight, as the credibility of a win doesn't out weigh the good chance there is of him koing the likes of pascal, dawsn, cleverly and hopkins
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:02 AM   #23
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Never seen him fight.

No exposure.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:25 AM   #24
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He's promoted by Don King which these days is very bad for your career, he doesn't have the tv shows to keep his fighters fighting regularily as Top Rank and GBP have them largely sown up, and he keeps standing in the way of his guys fighting on other promoters cards. He had a bit of buzz as a KO artist going a couple of years back but when he couldn't knock out old Clinton Woods and Glenn Johnson it looked like he was only scoring KO's because he was fighting weak opposition (unfair maybe but that's how it goes), he needs exposure to make a name for himself as a good, exciting fighter but isn't getting it.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:09 AM   #25
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He's good but not exceptional imo.

Doesnt seem to have many fans or generate much hype despite being in an excellent division.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:32 AM   #26
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Andrade is/was a ****ing bum who has zero skills and is about as athletic as a corpse. he gets by on with his physicality nothing else. Cloud actually knows how to get leverage on his punches
Right. Obviously you haven't watched the Mack & Tsypko fights.

Doesn't change the fact Cloud couldn't wobble Zuniga with that punch power you seem so fond of.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:33 AM   #27
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he's a lot better than Andrade ever was. much more athletic for a start
and there it ends.
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