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Willy Pep 21 31.34%
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:56 AM   #1
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Who do you think guys?
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:17 AM   #2
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Something to keep in mind Pep was stoped 6 times in his carrer and Whitaker was stoped once in his carrer. Pep also had 241 fights and Whitaker had 45 fights.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:53 AM   #3
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If I recall I've read in The Ring Magazine that Willie Pep once won a round without throwing a punch! Does anyone know about this? Was he really that good as a defensive fighter?
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:53 AM   #4
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If Whittaker had to fight Sandy Saddler,or if he had over two hundred fights, he might have been stopped too.Most of Peps stoppage losses were when he was way past his prime.Whittaker had better natural reflexes in his prime than did Pep, but Pep had more skill and threw more precise combinations.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:15 AM   #5
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Joe Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep's.

Both rely on agility and reflexes to get out of the way. However Calzaghe went 40 fights without ever having his face marked up at all. Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep, although his aggression means he isn't a defensive fighter. Just an offensive one with betetr evasion skills than Pep. Calzaghe is superior in everyway therefore.

Whitaker's is also infinitely more skilled than Pep. In a head to head matchup Pep would be embarrassed.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:16 AM   #6
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If I recall I've read in The Ring Magazine that Willie Pep once won a round without throwing a punch! Does anyone know about this? Was he really that good as a defensive fighter?
No. Just one of the many myths the legend of Willie Pep is built upon.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:30 AM   #7
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Joe Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep's.

Both rely on agility and reflexes to get out of the way. However Calzaghe went 40 fights without ever having his face marked up at all. Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep, although his aggression means he isn't a defensive fighter. Just an offensive one with betetr evasion skills than Pep. Calzaghe is superior in everyway therefore.

Whitaker's is also infinitely more skilled than Pep. In a head to head matchup Pep would be embarrassed.
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[quote=China_hand_Joe]Joe Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep's. quote]

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Old 08-17-2007, 09:20 AM   #9
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If you are going to have a differing opinion then please justify it.

What Joe Calzaghe did in the first round of the Sakio Bika fight matches any of Peps 'defensive wizardry'.

Pep is the more negative, defensive fighter yes - but in terms of ability to evade punches he is no better than Calzaghe. Just watch the Lacy fight (or any other Calzaghe fight post-2000) and I'm sure you will come round to agreeing.
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Joe Calzaghe's defence is superior to Pep's.
Tony Pep maybe

I'd say, from what I've seen, that the two are virtually equal.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:22 AM   #11
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Tony Pep maybe

I'd say, from what I've seen, that the two are virtually equal.
It probably is fairly equal between Willie Pep and Joe Calzaghe, as it is easier to be evasive against slow Super-middleweights than it is against faster featherwieghts.

Weights taken into consideration it is very close.
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It probably is equal, as it is easier to be evasive against slow Super-middleweights than it is against faster featherwieghts.
I'll give you this: Calzaghe is a great defensive fighter and will have his hands raised on November 3rd.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:25 AM   #13
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IMO Calzaghe is a pub fighter, a good one thou, but for the sake of boxing i hope Kessler will beat his ass
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I'll give you this: Calzaghe is a great defensive fighter and will have his hands raised on November 3rd.
If his reflexes are near the level they were a few years ago then he will.
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If his reflexes are near the level they were a few years ago then he will.
Do you agree with Amsterdam and Blocky that Kessler will be smashed and stopped?
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