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Old 07-06-2007, 03:28 PM   #16
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Was he a matchmakers intended loser in both fights? Or was he as a contender fighting open championship fights?
If you can answer yes to that, you can also use you're no logic technique on some one else.
Look at the post before teaching others.
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:34 PM   #17
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I'll recommend every one to actually read Michael Murrays book Journeyman. He is very good at explaining what it feels like to be in the different categories, how the journeymen, opponents etc. perceives themselves.
As a great bonus you'll get a funny story of him being picked up in the airport by Brian Nielsen who was apparently farting all over the place. Good stuff.
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Old 07-06-2007, 03:41 PM   #18
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Sauerland accepted both fights. If he had said no there would have been no fights. Häussler would have given up his title, but Larsen was supposed to lose both fights. Remember that the fight was close on the scorecards until the last two rounds!

Larsen needs confidence in his offensive boxing, not his power. He won't win anything with his power. He will win it with his boxing skills.

Larsen showed fine defensive boxing against an opponent that gave Brähmer a tough fight. Yes, Velazco was probably drained somewhat from that fight, but it showed Larsen is on the right way.

Sadly there is no news of an opponent, so it seems Larsen will have to wait a long time for a title fight of value (EBU or World title).

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Old 07-06-2007, 06:06 PM   #19
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Throwing Doubles, what ticked me of a bit was much more that you put journeyman in a negative way. You are right when you say they are not tomato cans. Fighting on the road is tougher and yet some of these fighters get a good career anyway. Fighters like Manuel Medina and Daniel Zaragoza fought on the road all their career. Zaragoza made to the Hall of Fame. A journeyman par excellence.

About Larsen: In my eyes the only reason for him to get an easy fight would be for a EBU title fight in september.

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Old 07-06-2007, 07:50 PM   #20
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Sauerland accepted both fights because he couldn't do anything else. It was not a case of actual matchmaking like it has been with Larsens latest opponents who has been handpicked. Larsen was mandatory at least to Häussler and he probably was to Ottke too, can't remember.
I respect journeymen, without them there would be no boxing as we know it (though there's room for improvement). But journeymen are still journeymen, which means nobody, no one, are serving their best interest as sportsmen, only financially, if they're lucky. Why? Because their potential is limited.
The term is not exclusively refering to where they're fighting, but also to their function as dummies for more protected fighters. Those dummies come in different classes. Journeymen belong in the upper league compared to opponents and of course to tomato cans...
Michael Murrays says it's like this: Bodies 45 pct., journeymen 40 pct. prospects 10 pct. the rest champions. It's a high degree of champions, but probably true if you count all titlists as champions.
I don't think and EBU fight would be easy for Larsen. But I would be glad to be surprised. I wish him the best, but I think he needs a knockout to strengthen his self belief. Some people think otherwise.
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Old 07-07-2007, 10:17 AM   #21
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I hope Mads Larsen choose and get the opportunity the become the number one smw in germany meaning fighting the best from Universum or Sauerland. So perhaps Denis Inkin would be a great match up. Because if he first become the best in Germany, then the future title fights will be much easier for him to get... The audience would demand it... Fight Inkin or perhaps Danilo/Jürgen... It would be a test on top level, he need a fight against one of those just outside the very best, because if he does not manage to win such a fight, well then he might as well retire... Mads Larsen - wish you the best of luck
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:54 PM   #22
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Larsen ' s next foe is Australian based Arab Nader Hamdan. The Dane will appear on the undercard of Ghevor vs Abraham.
Since I have the intention to watch that fight card live I am glad to learn that Larsen will showcase his skills on the undercard against a decent opponent.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:46 PM   #23
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Didn't you say he would fight Naser Hamdan. He doesn't fit the decent description.
Looks like another 8 boring rounds
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:40 PM   #24
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Larsen ' s next foe is Australian based Arab Nader Hamdan. The Dane will appear on the undercard of Ghevor vs Abraham.
Since I have the intention to watch that fight card live I am glad to learn that Larsen will showcase his skills on the undercard against a decent opponent.
Australian based Arab?

I thin k you'll find Nader has been in Australian most of his life....
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:25 AM   #25
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how about Markus Bayer?
Markus Beyer is still injured. I don't think he'll fight again.
And Larsen and Beyer do have the same coach - Ulli Wegner.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:03 AM   #26
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Australian based Arab?

I thin k you'll find Nader has been in Australian most of his life....
What's your point? I have spent a considerable amount of time in Germany. My bosnian workmate has been living in Germany for over 36 years.However,his native soil and the home of his soul is still Bosnia.
Hamdan has been living in Australia for a long time.So what?
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:24 AM   #27
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What does his passport say? There is your answer to his nationality.

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Old 07-26-2007, 05:20 AM   #28
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Hey your avatar say your from Germany (Bavaria) is that true?
I am from Bavaria. Why do you ask?
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:17 AM   #29
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i komme auch von bayern doch lebe jetzt in Australia
Maybe you should think about replacing the "i" with "ich".
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:25 AM   #30
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Maybe you should think about replacing the "i" with "ich".
...and "Australia" with "Australien"...
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