Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Other > MMA Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-20-2011, 11:30 AM   #1
Popkins
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 13,401
vCash: 1000
Default My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Next relevant fights (as in, relevant to the title picture):

Rashad Evans vs Phil Davis (#1 contender fight)
Jon Jones vs Dan Henderson (title fight)
Rampage Jackson vs Ryan Bader
Lyoto Machida vs Rich Franklin



Next relevant fights:

Jon Jones vs Rashad Evans

Lyoto Machida vs Rampage Jackson



Next relevant fights:

Jon Jones vs Lyoto Machida II




Then if Jones wins, he moves to heavyweight.




Possible? Probable? In favour? Against?
Popkins is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 12-20-2011, 11:57 AM   #2
Lynchburg
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Gloucester, England
Posts: 1,686
vCash: 1449
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Popkins View Post
Next relevant fights (as in, relevant to the title picture):

Rashad Evans vs Phil Davis (#1 contender fight)
Jon Jones vs Dan Henderson (title fight)
Rampage Jackson vs Ryan Bader
Lyoto Machida vs Rich Franklin



Next relevant fights:

Jon Jones vs Rashad Evans

Lyoto Machida vs Rampage Jackson



Next relevant fights:

Jon Jones vs Lyoto Machida II




Then if Jones wins, he moves to heavyweight.




Possible? Probable? In favour? Against?
What is the point of Machida fighting Franklin though? Franklin is a chocolate teaspoon at this point.

Hendo Vs Jones
Machida Vs Jones II
Evans Vs Jones
Bonnar Vs Jones II

That is all i want to see...

Lynchburg
Lynchburg is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 12:32 PM   #3
Popkins
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 13,401
vCash: 1000
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynchburg View Post
What is the point of Machida fighting Franklin though? Franklin is a chocolate teaspoon at this point.

Hendo Vs Jones
Machida Vs Jones II
Evans Vs Jones
Bonnar Vs Jones II

That is all i want to see...

Lynchburg
I think Machida needs a couple of fights to get some momentum and confidence back. Officially, he is 1-3 in his last four. That's not deserving of another title shot, despite how good he looked in patches in two of the losses, vs Rampage and Jones. A couple of impressive wins would bring him to the forefront again.

And I'll assume this was a joke:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynchburg View Post
Bonnar Vs Jones II
Popkins is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 12:33 PM   #4
Who'sNext
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: your mama's house
Posts: 556
vCash: 381
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynchburg View Post
What is the point of Machida fighting Franklin though? Franklin is a chocolate teaspoon at this point.

Hendo Vs Jones
Machida Vs Jones II
Evans Vs Jones
Bonnar Vs Jones II

That is all i want to see...

Lynchburg
machida has weak streak so i would let him fight somebody on franklin level, or maybe some young blood...
Who'sNext is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 01:04 PM   #5
One Punch KO
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,467
vCash: 1000
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

That's too soon for both Machida/Rampage II and Jones/Machida II Popkins.

Gustafsson, if he gets past the Janitor, is more likely than either for his third fight. It's also possible that either Mousasi or King Mo are brought over from Strikeforce to face Jones. Or a fighter who's under the radar might put a couple of impressive wins together and become a contender - Stanislav Nedkov, for instance. Finally, Anderson Silva/Jon Jones is a genuine superfight, probably the biggest in the sport's history if it can be made.

And this is assuming Jon Jones gets past Dan Henderson and the Davis/Rashad winner...
One Punch KO is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 01:17 PM   #6
BewareofDawg
P4P Champ
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: At The ESB VIP Table!
Posts: 12,885
vCash: 1000
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynchburg View Post
What is the point of Machida fighting Franklin though? Franklin is a chocolate teaspoon at this point.

Hendo Vs Jones
Machida Vs Jones II
Evans Vs Jones
Bonnar Vs Jones II

That is all i want to see...

Lynchburg
BewareofDawg is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 01:36 PM   #7
Popkins
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 13,401
vCash: 1000
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by One Punch KO View Post
That's too soon for both Machida/Rampage II and Jones/Machida II Popkins.

Gustafsson, if he gets past the Janitor, is more likely than either for his third fight. It's also possible that either Mousasi or King Mo are brought over from Strikeforce to face Jones. Or a fighter who's under the radar might put a couple of impressive wins together and become a contender - Stanislav Nedkov, for instance. Finally, Anderson Silva/Jon Jones is a genuine superfight, probably the biggest in the sport's history if it can be made.

And this is assuming Jon Jones gets past Dan Henderson and the Davis/Rashad winner...
I don't think it's too soon for Rampage-Machida II, and via the way I hope things go, Jones-Machida II wouldn't be happening for quite a long time anyway.

You're right though, Gustafsson, King Mo and Mousasi could all have parts to play in this, good call.
Popkins is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 02:06 PM   #8
chimba
Off the Somali Coast
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,025
vCash: 800
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

I have a Vision as well. No ones beating Jones for two years.
chimba is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 02:43 PM   #9
Will Cooling
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,589
vCash: 500
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by BewareofDawg View Post
Bonnar's one a three-fight win streak. Stranger things have happened.
Will Cooling is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 05:19 PM   #10
Primate
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,415
vCash: 500
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

I find it strange that people are giggling their arses off at Bonnar Jones II, when the first one when to decision, Jones actually lost a round against Bonnar, and Bonnar's on a 3 fight win streak. Where as Machida Jones II makes perfect sense even though Machida got choked into dream land in round 2 and has gone 1-3 in his last 4.
Primate is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 05:31 PM   #11
Tuffnutz
ESB 2002 Club
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,218
vCash: 1000
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Primate View Post
I find it strange that people are giggling their arses off at Bonnar Jones II, when the first one when to decision, Jones actually lost a round against Bonnar, and Bonnar's on a 3 fight win streak. Where as Machida Jones II makes perfect sense even though Machida got choked into dream land in round 2 and has gone 1-3 in his last 4.
But dontcha know Machida's figured out how to beat Jones after stealing the first round by landing a couple of punches and kicks, then getting beaten by Jones in all departments, getting taken down with ease, badly cut with G & P, hurt badly and dropped hard standing then being put to bed with jitz.
Tuffnutz is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 05:52 PM   #12
the beaver
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,981
vCash: 75
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Primate View Post
I find it strange that people are giggling their arses off at Bonnar Jones II, when the first one when to decision, Jones actually lost a round against Bonnar, and Bonnar's on a 3 fight win streak. Where as Machida Jones II makes perfect sense even though Machida got choked into dream land in round 2 and has gone 1-3 in his last 4.

I was thinking the same thing but thought i might have been ridiculed if i mentioned it
the beaver is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 05:57 PM   #13
Rob_Floyd
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,713
vCash: 847
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Primate View Post
I find it strange that people are giggling their arses off at Bonnar Jones II, when the first one when to decision, Jones actually lost a round against Bonnar, and Bonnar's on a 3 fight win streak. Where as Machida Jones II makes perfect sense even though Machida got choked into dream land in round 2 and has gone 1-3 in his last 4.
He also hadn't even been training for a year before the Bonnar fight, and still managed to dominate him for two rounds before tiring. He would just beat him worse if they were to fight again.
Rob_Floyd is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 06:03 PM   #14
Primate
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,415
vCash: 500
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd View Post
He also hadn't even been training for a year before the Bonnar fight, and still managed to dominate him for two rounds before tiring. He would just beat him worse if they were to fight again.
I know. I doubt Bonnar would make it through a round against Jones today, I was just pointing out the inconsistency.
Primate is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2011, 06:41 PM   #15
achillesthegreat
FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 18,266
vCash: 1000
Default Re: My vision for how the UFC LHW division plays out...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Primate View Post
I find it strange that people are giggling their arses off at Bonnar Jones II, when the first one when to decision, Jones actually lost a round against Bonnar, and Bonnar's on a 3 fight win streak. Where as Machida Jones II makes perfect sense even though Machida got choked into dream land in round 2 and has gone 1-3 in his last 4.
Because it was his 8th fight and his striking, experience, training etc have all improved to the degree where he should only be discussed with elite fighters.

Bonnars a fun guy and he is matched quite well but we can't really justify a title shot.

Any talk of Machida II is madness. Yes he was awkward in round 1 and caught Jones with a good shot or two but like you said the second round was brutal. Machida is also 1-3 in his last 4 fights and needs to put a run together. He only got this fight because Evans was out of the picture, Rampage/Shogun had been beat and he was the next best thing.
achillesthegreat is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Other > MMA Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013