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View Poll Results: If Ward Wins The S6, should he replace Sergio as #3 P4P or at least be in the Top 3?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:28 PM   #1
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Should Andre Wards P4P status change and replace Sergio Martinez as #3 P4P?
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As u can see they have an overrated Martinez as #3 to begin with and ward at #6 but I say If Ward wins this S6 tournament he truely deserves to be in the top 3, shit i wouldnt even mind if he is #1 or #2. he fights the best possible opponents while sergios last match was against a nobody. If he wins he will unify the WBC and WBA titles and be S6 champ. thats truly worthy of top 3 status. what has sergio done lately? nothin special..

anyways what y'all think
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:33 PM   #2
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if u disagree explain why
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:34 PM   #3
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Should Andre Wards P4P status change and replace Sergio Martinez as #3 P4P?
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As u can see they have an overrated Martinez as #3 to begin with and ward at #6 but I say If Ward wins this S6 tournament he truely deserves to be in the top 3, shit i wouldnt even mind if he is #1 or #2. he fights the best possible opponents while sergios last match was against a nobody. If he wins he will unify the WBC and WBA titles and be S6 champ. thats truly worthy of top 3 status. what has sergio done lately? nothin special..

anyways what y'all think
IMO, he doesn't diserve to be 6th now. He beat an injured Kessler, that's his only major win. Not enough to be a p4p. He didn't fought the best opponents. Green, Bika, Miranda and Abraham are not p4p material. If he beats Froch, he'll be in the lower spots of my top 10.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:34 PM   #4
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Sergio is an exceptional fighter but I've always had a problem with people placing him in the top 3 for beating drunk pavlik, Williams and kermit.

Ward should be behind floyd, Marquez and PAC if he wins on Saturday in style.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:35 PM   #5
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Wards Last 5(would be)
1. W- Carl Froch
2. W- Arthur Abraham
3. W- Sakio Bika
4. W- Allan Green
5. W- Mikkel Kessler

Martinez's last 5
1. W- Darren Barker
2. W- Serihey Dzinzruk
3. W- Paul Williams
4. W- Kelly Pavlik
5. L- Paul Williams

I don't see why not, especially if he wins impressively.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:35 PM   #6
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IMO, he doesn't diserve to be 6th now. He beat an injured Kessler, that's his only major win. Not enough to be a p4p. He didn't fought the best opponents. Green, Bika, Miranda and Abraham are not p4p material. If he beats Froch, he'll be in the lower spots of my top 10.

I'd like to see your list.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:36 PM   #7
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IMO, he doesn't diserve to be 6th now. He beat an injured Kessler, that's his only major win. Not enough to be a p4p. He didn't fought the best opponents. Green, Bika, Miranda and Abraham are not p4p material. If he beats Froch, he'll be in the lower spots of my top 10.
are u serious? dont use no ****in injury excuse. ward has proved himself over and over being the underdog. and how do u not agree about his status but have no problem with sergio being #3?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:37 PM   #8
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Wards Last 5(would be)
1. W- Carl Froch
2. W- Arthur Abraham
3. W- Sakio Bika
4. W- Allan Green
5. W- Mikkel Kessler

Martinez's last 5
1. W- Darren Barker
2. W- Serihey Dzinzruk
3. W- Paul Williams
4. W- Kelly Pavlik
5. L- Paul Williams

I don't see why not, especially if he wins impressively.
exactly. the recent fights speak for themselves
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imo:

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Old 12-13-2011, 06:38 PM   #10
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Don't see the point of this thread and the topic could easily be argued about after the fight, IF Ward wins. People are getting way ahead of themselves, Froch is no mug.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:39 PM   #11
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He should be moved to #3 and if he beats Bute, an argument could be made for #1. He'll have litterally cleaned out his division without cherry picking like everyone else. Plus, how many rounds has he lost so far? Almost none. As much as I hate the dirty tricks when he does use them, he dominates guys and hasn't taken any damage so far. But I'm guessing Bute will change alot of that. I'll be real suprised if Froch does well and wins more than 3 rounds, but it could happen.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:39 PM   #12
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Don't see the point of this thread and the topic could easily be argued about after the fight, IF Ward wins. People are getting way ahead of themselves, Froch is no mug.
did u not see the word "IF" in my thread?
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are u serious? dont use no ****in injury excuse. ward has proved himself over and over being the underdog. and how do u not agree about his status but have no problem with sergio being #3?
Ok. Forget the injury. That's still one single big win. No ****ing European fighter would break the Ring top 10 with that. Not one.

Martinez may be too high, that doesn't mean you have to do the same thing with Ward. There is nothing justifying Ward at #6 now.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:41 PM   #14
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He should be moved to #3 and if he beats Bute, an argument could be made for #1. He'll have litterally cleaned out his division without cherry picking like everyone else. Plus, how many rounds has he lost so far? Almost none. As much as I hate the dirty tricks when he does use them, he dominates guys and hasn't taken any damage so far. But I'm guessing Bute will change alot of that. I'll be real suprised if Froch does well and wins more than 3 rounds, but it could happen.
nope, number 3 if he wins S6 and #1 or #2 if he beats Bute
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He would of beaten Bika, Kessler, Abraham, and Froch so I would have to agree
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