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View Poll Results: If Ward Wins The S6, should he replace Sergio as #3 P4P or at least be in the Top 3?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:42 PM   #16
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nope, number 3 if he wins S6 and #1 or #2 if he beats Bute
I think that is exactly what he said.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:43 PM   #17
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Ok. Forget the injury. That's still one single big win. No ****ing European fighter would break the Ring top 10 with that. Not one.

Martinez may be too high, that doesn't mean you have to do the same thing with Ward. There is nothing justifying Ward at #6 now.
well how do u justify ANYONE on the list? besides pacquiao and mayweather what has everyone else on the list done thats so much better than wards accomplishments?
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:46 PM   #18
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I think that is exactly what he said.
no he said #3 if he beats bute not if he wins S6
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well how do u justify ANYONE on the list? besides pacquiao and mayweather what has everyone else on the list have done thats so much better than wards accomplishments?


The top ten p4p is always packed up with American. Don't expect me to agree to that bias. What about Donaire? He did much more that Ward in a better fashion. If you think a bit, you'll find many more diserving fighters. Any fighter who beat a champion would fit in the top 10 if I follow you. That's a lot of people.

Martinez beat a p4p fighter, that means more that Ward' s win against Kessler, who was not at his best, injury or him being past his prime.

It's just my opinion though and you have the right to have your own p4p list.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:48 PM   #20
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alot of people are voting no. but please explain why not and whos more deserving
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:49 PM   #21
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no he said #3 if he beats bute not if he wins S6
Read again. You are aguing with someone saying about the same thing you do.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:50 PM   #22
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The top ten p4p is always packed up with American. Don't expect me to agree to that bias. What about Donaire? He did much more that Ward in a better fashion. If you think a bit, you'll find many more diserving fighters. Any fighter who beat a champion would fit in the top 10 if I follow you. That's a lot of people.

Martinez beat a p4p fighter, that means more that Ward' s win against Kessler, who was not at his best, injury or him being past his prime.

It's just my opinion though.
excuses. There are no great UK fighters that deserve Top 10 besides the Klitschkos
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:50 PM   #23
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well how do u justify ANYONE on the list? besides pacquiao and mayweather what has everyone else on the list done thats so much better than wards accomplishments?
you're right...he would have 3 good names under his belt (kessler, abraham, froch). the 3 of those are better fighters than what donaire and martinez have faced yet they get recognition.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:52 PM   #24
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you're right...he would have 3 good names under his belt (kessler, abraham, froch). the 3 of those are better fighters than what donaire and martinez have faced yet they get recognition.
exactly
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The top ten p4p is always packed up with American. Don't expect me to agree to that bias. What about Donaire? He did much more that Ward in a better fashion. If you think a bit, you'll find many more diserving fighters. Any fighter who beat a champion would fit in the top 10 if I follow you. That's a lot of people.

Martinez beat a p4p fighter, that means more that Ward' s win against Kessler, who was not at his best, injury or him being past his prime.

It's just my opinion though and you have the right to have your own p4p list.
please. Nonitos last oppenent was a nobody moving up from a smaller weight class
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:18 PM   #26
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please. Nonitos last oppenent was a nobody moving up from a smaller weight class

If you only the last opponent, that explains why the rankings are bizarre. What about the Montiel win? In my book, that is a better win than Kessler for Ward.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:21 PM   #27
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you're right...he would have 3 good names under his belt (kessler, abraham, froch). the 3 of those are better fighters than what donaire and martinez have faced yet they get recognition.
Abraham is shit. Don't count him please. Froch beat him better than Ward. Froch also beat Taylor, Pascal and Dirrell, and he's not even on your p4p list. Can't you see your monstruous bias? For the moment, Ward has one big win and has fought in one division. Number 6 is too high. A Froch win would make him climb though. It would confirm the Kessler victory. I think a second big win is important.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:23 PM   #28
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excuses. There are no great UK fighters that deserve Top 10 besides the Klitschkos
So, the Klitchkos come from UK?

The world is not what surrounds USA you know.
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:25 PM   #29
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no beat Bute then we can talk
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are u serious? dont use no ****in injury excuse. ward has proved himself over and over being the underdog. and how do u not agree about his status but have no problem with sergio being #3?
Why did you make a poll?

If it was to have a debate about it, then you may want to accept different opinions.
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