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View Poll Results: Pride Nogueira vs UFC Mir
Nogueira Submission 9 29.03%
Nogueira KO/TKO 13 41.94%
Nogueira Points 2 6.45%
Mir Submission 4 12.90%
Mir KO/TKO 1 3.23%
Mir Points 2 6.45%
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:46 PM   #16
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Default Re: Big Nog (circa 2003/4) vs Frank Mir (circa 2011)

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I call bull**** until you post the video or give me some kind of evidence that it even exists.
I cannot find it anywhere..I just looked everywhere on Youtube.. It has apparently been removed. It is no bull**** though.
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:47 PM   #17
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Nog should've won last match.
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:58 PM   #18
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Yea...but he got his arm broken instead.
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Old 12-23-2011, 04:25 PM   #19
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I cannot find it anywhere..I just looked everywhere on Youtube.. It has apparently been removed. It is no bull**** though.
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Old 12-23-2011, 04:55 PM   #20
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I know I know, **** my life. I should've made sure I had the video link..
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Old 12-23-2011, 06:57 PM   #21
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Grappling like everything decays with age, otherwise the best grapplers in the world would be old men and not young guns like the Mendez bros, roger an Jacare!
bull****. the old guys dissapear because they can no longer take the hard training. theres hardly an mma fighter out there that could touch rickson, saulo or fabio gurgel on the mats
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:17 PM   #22
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bull****. the old guys dissapear because they can no longer take the hard training. theres hardly an mma fighter out there that could touch rickson, saulo or fabio gurgel on the mats

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Old 12-23-2011, 08:36 PM   #23
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Default Re: Big Nog (circa 2003/4) vs Frank Mir (circa 2011)

Prime Nog can not be defeated by anybody except Prime Fedor or Prime Cro Cop.

Nobody can challenge these three.

Not any opponent, under any circumstances, in any fight. Not ever.

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Old 12-23-2011, 09:30 PM   #24
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Any Pride fighter who was in their "prime" was unbeatable... so why do we bother with these fantasy matchups where people can say prime this and prime that....but it's not going to happen so it's a pointless arguement.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:33 PM   #25
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Prime Choi Hong-man KO 1 Mir, Lesnar, Cain, JDS, etc... Because he was a PRIDE guy.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:42 AM   #26
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I like Nog by tko, but that is what I picked for their last fight. I just think Nogueira has better stand-up than Mir. Mir has more power, and his stand-up has more variety, but I think Nogueira is just more effective. I believe Mir caught an under prepared Nogueira in their first bout, and caught him backing up in a straight line. Their 2nd fight was more of what I was expecting, minus the ending of course.
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:12 AM   #27
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Nog by KO for me, that fight would of been finished if the ref didn't warn Nog for punching Mir in what ever place he left available, I was shocked at how badly Nog was beating the **** out of Mir in the stand up even Brendan Shuab put up a better effort.

Can't take anything from Mirs BJJ because it was brilliant at the time but his stand up was **** poor
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:05 AM   #28
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Nog being past prime had nothing to do with him losing that fight.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:15 AM   #29
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How can you say him being past his prime had nothing to do with it? The guy is shot and has been for a long time. Beating him means nothing now.

No way Mir beats him in is prime.
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He went for a sub, he lost on the ground, had he had his chin cracked I would agree.
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