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Old 12-29-2011, 10:01 AM   #46
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At his best being the key here.
OK he was probably on the slide a bit when he fought Hatton but it only seemed to be after the fight that people started saying it.Myself included,my prediction was a cut up Hatton stopped by his corner in middle rounds,pretty one sided beating heading for a KO.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:12 AM   #47
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At that point Zoo would have started favourite against any fighter active at 140lbs in the world.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:18 AM   #48
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Doesn't mean he wasn't past it. The logic seems to be just because he knocked out Sharmba Mitchell he was still at his peak. Just not the case. I don't doubt he had power but the rest didn't look good.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:25 AM   #49
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Tsyzu's got to be one of the most overrated fighters of the last ten years. A skilled and very technically able fighter, no doubt, but not a hall of fame calibre fighter in my opinion and his record is a testament to that. His top 5 wins are relatively poor in comparison to other top fighters of his era, I mean the likes of Judah, Urkal, Mitchell, Hurtado etc... it's like 'count the glass jaws'
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:30 AM   #50
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Doesn't mean he wasn't past it. The logic seems to be just because he knocked out Sharmba Mitchell he was still at his peak. Just not the case. I don't doubt he had power but the rest didn't look good.
Its still a massive win for Hatton.I totally agree that Naz has a better record but it does seem a bit unfair that when everyone pretty much expected Hatton to get beat and he won we all turn round and say "ah he was past it".
Same thing happened when Holyfield beat Tyson it went from"as if he had never been away"to "he peaked in the 80s"It may be speaking the truth in both cases but not many were saying it before the fights.It starts to sound a bit like backtracking on your prediction because you got it wrong.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:32 AM   #51
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Tsyzu's got to be one of the most overrated fighters of the last ten years. A skilled and very technically able fighter, no doubt, but not a hall of fame calibre fighter in my opinion and his record is a testament to that. His top 5 wins are relatively poor in comparison to other top fighters of his era, I mean the likes of Judah, Urkal, Mitchell, Hurtado etc... it's like 'count the glass jaws'
Judah was not known as glass jawed before the Tsyzu fight.nor was Mitchell as I remember it.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:32 AM   #52
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I think what I'm saying is, even if Tszyu was at his best and Ricky was the underdog it still wouldn't be the incredible scalp most claim it to be.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:34 AM   #53
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What I find interesting is what our ideas about that fight would have been had Hatton been a young and upcoming American taking on Tszyu. Since we are incredibly pessimistic overall about our fighters chances when they step up to the very top. This is all pointless of course but its interesting, keeping in mind Tszyu/Phillips.
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Judah was not known as glass jawed before the Tsyzu fight.nor was Mitchell as I remember it.
They both have poor chins though. Mitchell's is particularly bad, and it's not as though Judah's chin can be considered any better than average (it's poor IMO). Regardless of their reputations before the fight, both have bad chins, which has been proven in countless other instances. Therefore Tszyu knocking them out is not a particularly stellar achievement.
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I don't think Judah's is too bad in honesty. He has a glass heart though. Seemed to just call it a day against Khan and Cotto more than anything.
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I think what I'm saying is, even if Tszyu was at his best and Ricky was the underdog it still wouldn't be the incredible scalp most claim it to be.
Its a difficult one,some people big it up too much and others play it down too much.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:41 AM   #57
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I don't think Judah's is too bad in honesty. He has a glass heart though. Seemed to just call it a day against Khan and Cotto more than anything.
He just looked well past it in the Khan fight but I agree he looks for a way out when it gets tough.Never my favorite fighter.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:43 AM   #58
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Just how far past his sell by date was Tszyu?

Well Frank made the fight didn't he!
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Ahhh.. After being away for a few weeks, nothing like insults to make a man feel welcome!
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