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Old 12-29-2011, 09:39 PM   #16
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No its not. Brock in the WWE was on gear and walked around at over 300lbs. He was an absolute beast of a man and was well known on the circuit for his feats of 'herculean' strength. Now his physical appearance is very different. Namely because he's more than likely not on 'gear' any more.

And i always presumed the absolute limit was 265lbs. Thats why the limit is there no? PRIDE never had a top limit at heavy. Only the UFC did at the same time.
This is seriously stupid.

He's never looked like he did in WWE whilst fighting. Why would he want to be topping 300Ibs if he has to cut to 265Ibs? Why would he want to abuse steroids to get that look, when that would hurt his stamina and make him more liable to tendon and muscle tears.

And seriously, you really are exposing how little you actually follow the modern sport. Commissions allow for fighters to be one pound over in non-title fights. Its why Diaz on the second attempt made weight at 156Ibs.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:48 PM   #17
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This is seriously stupid.

He's never looked like he did in WWE whilst fighting. Why would he want to be topping 300Ibs if he has to cut to 265Ibs? Why would he want to abuse steroids to get that look, when that would hurt his stamina and make him more liable to tendon and muscle tears.

And seriously, you really are exposing how little you actually follow the modern sport. Commissions allow for fighters to be one pound over in non-title fights. Its why Diaz on the second attempt made weight at 156Ibs.
O shut up you ****ing soppy prat. Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else here does.And iv been following this sport far longer than you journo. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. Il be sure to make a mental note for next time.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:50 PM   #18
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O shut up you ****ing soppy prat. Don't take yourself so seriously. No one else here does.And iv been following this sport far longer than you journo. Thanks for the interesting anecdote. Il be sure to make a mental note for next time.
Yes. You're such an expert about the sport that you don't understand how weigh-ins work.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:53 PM   #19
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iv been following this sport far longer than you journo.
Then you should know that all fighters are given a 1 pound leeway, in case of minor mechanical fault with the scales. Only reason this does not apply is I believe in title fights.

Also, could you use all these years of experience following the sport to explain to me how exactly Anderson Silva will be able to keep the fight standing for long enough to beat Jon Jones with strikes. Will he be able to stuff Jones' takedowns, or will Jones' fightplan be to stand and trade with Anderson, rather than taking him down?

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Then you should know that all fighters are given a 1 pound leeway, in case of minor mechanical fault with the scales. Only reason this does not apply is I believe in title fights.

Also, could you use all these years of experience following the sport to explain to me how exactly Anderson Silva will be able to keep the fight standing for long enough to beat Jon Jones with strikes. Will he be able to stuff Jones' takedowns, or will Jones' fightplan be to stand and trade with Anderson, rather than taking him down?

He doesn't need to keep the fight standing. Jones takes the fight to the ground then Silva could very possibly sub him off his back. Those long limbs of Jones are a BJJ black belt's dream plus Jones has said JiuJitsu is his weakness.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:56 PM   #21
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Yes. You're such an expert about the sport that you don't understand how weigh-ins work.
What you want from me? A ****ing medal or a cookie? Jog on muppet. You're boring now.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:58 PM   #22
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Wouldn't mind a cookie actually.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:01 PM   #24
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Btw you still haven't answered why Lesnar would want to be over 300Ibs when he has to cut to 265Ibs.

And I'm still waiting on that list of things Zuffa did to destroy the Grand Prix.

No doubt like always you'll just ignore discussions where you're proven wrong.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:05 PM   #25
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Brock's builld is huge but he obviously doesn't work on definition which doesn't help in mma anyhow. overeem with all that dense muscle will need alot of O2 to feed all that muscle. I think Brock's best bet will to be get out of the first round if he can and make Reem work on stopping TD's which will make him work. I don't see this going the distance.

Is this a 5 rounder considering it's the main event?
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Brock's builld is huge but he obviously doesn't work on definition which doesn't help in mma anyhow. overeem with all that dense muscle will need alot of O2 to feed all that muscle. I think Brock's best bet will to be get out of the first round if he can and make Reem work on stopping TD's which will make him work. I don't see this going the distance.

Is this a 5 rounder considering it's the main event?
Yeah its a five-rounder.
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:24 PM   #28
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wow reem looks bigger than his days at SF, all while being ripped up too. that guy must be on the good stuff. Even if he is, he has good genetics to carry the weight and bulk lean mass the way he has.
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He doesn't need to keep the fight standing. Jones takes the fight to the ground then Silva could very possibly sub him off his back. Those long limbs of Jones are a BJJ black belt's dream plus Jones has said JiuJitsu is his weakness.
That's all well and good, but Scurla claimed that Silva would "humiliate" Jones.

He went on to write this:

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Personally i think Jones has no answer whatsoever for Silva's striking.
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What exactly makes you think that Bones would be keen to stay on his feet and trade with Anderson?

Why wouldn't he just throw him down to the ground, where Jones' biggest strengths play right into Anderson's biggest weaknesses?

Which is it? Is Jones going to choose to stand in front of Anderson and wait for Silva to land something, or is Anderson going to be able to stuff Jones' takedowns when decorated wrestlers twice his size get thrown around like children?

Honestly, what is going to stop Jones from taking the Sonnen gameplan, and adding vicious fight-ending elbows to it?

To which scurla didn't deign to provide a response.

I genuinely would like to know why it's a given that Anderson "humiliates" Jones, and why Jones is unable to take Anderson down when he ragdolls guys like Hamill, Bader, Shogun and Machida.

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