Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet?

Popkins · 12-31-2011, 07:51 AM

Cerrone was being talked of as the next challenger to the Edgar/Henderson winner.

Now that Nate has beat the dogshit out of him, does he stand next in line?

Cerrone was 6-0 in his last 6 and looked superb in his previous fight vs Dennis Siver, whereas this win only takes Nate to 2-2 in his last 4, and other than Cerrone he hasn't beaten a top lightweight in years.

Is Nate now a realistic contender, or is it too early to be saying this? His performance was mighty impressive though.

I think the most likely scenario is the Edgar v Henderson winner will face Gilbert Melendez, while Nate Diaz will meet the winner of the Pettis vs Lauzon match-up.

mckay_89 · 12-31-2011, 07:55 AM

Yeah Gil definitely deserves the next crack, hopefully Dana can bring him over ASAP as Masvidal was the last challenge in Strikeforce and Gil dealt with him fairly easily. I'd like to see Nate up against either the Pettis v Lauzon winner or the Miller v Guillard winner. A victory in either of those fights would prove he deserves a shot. Of course the only problem is if Gil wins the title he's screwed.

Popkins · 12-31-2011, 07:57 AM

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Yeah Gil definitely deserves the next crack, hopefully Dana can bring him over ASAP as Masvidal was the last challenge in Strikeforce and Gil dealt with him fairly easily. I'd like to see Nate up against either the Pettis v Lauzon winner or the Miller v Guillard winner. A victory in either of those fights would prove he deserves a shot. Of course the only problem is if Gil wins the title he's screwed.

I think we'll see Ben Henderson(c) vs Nate Diaz for the title someday soon.

mckay_89 · 12-31-2011, 08:00 AM

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I think we'll see Ben Henderson(c) vs Nate Diaz for the title someday soon.

I think Bendo beats Frankie too, although Edgar has proven you can never count him out. Melendez is a very tough fight for either guy too. Fuck, the lightweight division is brilliant.

Popkins · 12-31-2011, 08:58 AM

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I think Bendo beats Frankie too, although Edgar has proven you can never count him out. Melendez is a very tough fight for either guy too. Fuck, the lightweight division is brilliant.

Easily the best division in MMA.

12-31-2011, 09:40 AM

Pettis beats Diaz to fight the winner of Melendez / Henderson who I believe would both beat Frankie

Matty lll · 12-31-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Popkins

Easily the best division in MMA.

You got that right.

Bill Butcher · 12-31-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Popkins

Cerrone was being talked of as the next challenger to the Edgar/Henderson winner.

Now that Nate has beat the dogshit out of him, does he stand next in line?

Cerrone was 6-0 in his last 6 and looked superb in his previous fight vs Dennis Siver, whereas this win only takes Nate to 2-2 in his last 4, and other than Cerrone he hasn't beaten a top lightweight in years.

Is Nate now a realistic contender, or is it too early to be saying this? His performance was mighty impressive though.

I think the most likely scenario is the Edgar v Henderson winner will face Gilbert Melendez, while Nate Diaz will meet the winner of the Pettis vs Lauzon match-up.

If not his next fight then as you say, within his next 2 fights he should get a shot.

KERRIGAN · 12-31-2011, 05:53 PM

So if both Diaz boys become champions of the 155 and 170 division, where does that leave their sparring partners Melendez and Jake Shields from ever challenging for the title?

Popkins · 12-31-2011, 06:37 PM

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So if both Diaz boys become champions of the 155 and 170 division, where does that leave their sparring partners Melendez and Jake Shields from ever challenging for the title?

Nate and Melendez does pose a problem for 155, but I'm not sure Melendez will beat the Edgar/Henderson winner.

Shields would have to do something special to become a contender again after his embarrassing blow-out vs Ellenberger. Shields will become a Fitch-style fighter who will not be considered a viable challenger even after several victories, I don't see it being a problem.

Primate · 12-31-2011, 06:42 PM

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Easily the best division in MMA.

Fuckin a

Nate Diaz needs a good win or two before he gets a shot. There's too many great guys putting in work at LW to hand Diaz a shot

KERRIGAN · 12-31-2011, 11:22 PM

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Nate and Melendez does pose a problem for 155, but I'm not sure Melendez will beat the Edgar/Henderson winner.

Shields would have to do something special to become a contender again after his embarrassing blow-out vs Ellenberger. Shields will become a Fitch-style fighter who will not be considered a viable challenger even after several victories, I don't see it being a problem.

Whilst I agree with you that Shields is unlikely to become a contender at 170, if he were to exceed our expectations here and get on a winning streak and Diaz is the Champ, what do they do?

In boxing the Klitschko brothers avoid each other, but with the UFC owning Strikeforce(and most likely going to wrap it up when contractual obligations expire), it is going to be hard for someone to make a decent living if they stick to the avoidance.

sugarngold · 12-31-2011, 11:40 PM

Yes, Nate needs the next shot or at the very least a fight for the number one contender's spot.

achillesthegreat · 01-01-2012, 11:36 AM

Great win but one more fight I think. Pettis, Miller and Guida are good fights as like Cerrone they were all next in line but that last fight messed it up for them.

Boinko · 01-01-2012, 12:21 PM

Gotta give Diaz his due, despite that the fact I hate his street punk attitude. I thought Cerrone would school him and I was quite wrong.
I don't see s a problem with him getting a title shot, so maybe he meets the winner of Edgar/Henderson. Unless he takes another fight before that.
Either way, I have not problem with him fighting for the belt. I don't think he beats either Edgar or Henderson, but I didn't think he would be Cerrone either, so who knows.
Likely though, wrestling will make the difference.

12-31-2011, 07:51 AM	#1
Popkins Pacquiao East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 13,559 vCash: 1000	Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? Cerrone was being talked of as the next challenger to the Edgar/Henderson winner. Now that Nate has beat the dogshit out of him, does he stand next in line? Cerrone was 6-0 in his last 6 and looked superb in his previous fight vs Dennis Siver, whereas this win only takes Nate to 2-2 in his last 4, and other than Cerrone he hasn't beaten a top lightweight in years. Is Nate now a realistic contender, or is it too early to be saying this? His performance was mighty impressive though. I think the most likely scenario is the Edgar v Henderson winner will face Gilbert Melendez, while Nate Diaz will meet the winner of the Pettis vs Lauzon match-up.
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12-31-2011, 07:55 AM	#2
mckay_89 Haw you! East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Funky Town Posts: 5,517 vCash: 1065	Re: Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? Yeah Gil definitely deserves the next crack, hopefully Dana can bring him over ASAP as Masvidal was the last challenge in Strikeforce and Gil dealt with him fairly easily. I'd like to see Nate up against either the Pettis v Lauzon winner or the Miller v Guillard winner. A victory in either of those fights would prove he deserves a shot. Of course the only problem is if Gil wins the title he's screwed.
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zarman Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? Pettis beats Diaz to fight the winner of Melendez / Henderson who I believe would both beat Frankie
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KERRIGAN Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegemite Island Posts: 4,676 vCash: 356	Re: Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? So if both Diaz boys become champions of the 155 and 170 division, where does that leave their sparring partners Melendez and Jake Shields from ever challenging for the title?
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sugarngold RIDDUM East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mutantville, North Carolina Posts: 9,360 vCash: 200	Re: Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? Yes, Nate needs the next shot or at the very least a fight for the number one contender's spot.
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achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,198 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? Great win but one more fight I think. Pettis, Miller and Guida are good fights as like Cerrone they were all next in line but that last fight messed it up for them.
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Boinko Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,109 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Nate Diaz a realistic contender for next shot at the lw title, or not yet? Gotta give Diaz his due, despite that the fact I hate his street punk attitude. I thought Cerrone would school him and I was quite wrong. I don't see s a problem with him getting a title shot, so maybe he meets the winner of Edgar/Henderson. Unless he takes another fight before that. Either way, I have not problem with him fighting for the belt. I don't think he beats either Edgar or Henderson, but I didn't think he would be Cerrone either, so who knows. Likely though, wrestling will make the difference.
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