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Old 12-11-2012, 12:30 PM   #11041
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Groves TKO
Porter UD
Masternak TKO
Santa Cruz TKO
Donaire TKO
KHAN TKO
Narvaez TKO
Wilder TKO
Abraham TKO
Haskins TKO
Ricky Burns TKO
Lebedev TKO
Burns fight is of, replaced with Porter-Diaz
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:30 PM   #11042
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Alright...so the question for me becomes Abraham UD12, or does his chance of a stoppage increase in the 11th or 12th?


I'll stick with UD12 for now.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:31 PM   #11043
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How is Rigondeaux vs. Kratingdaenggym not on the list?


...yet Wilder vs. Price is?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:31 PM   #11044
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Yesterday I swear it was listed as scheduled for 10.

Did the WBO only just approve it as a title defense or something?
On boxrec is listed as a 12 rounds bout.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #11045
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How is Rigondeaux vs. Kratingdaenggym not on the list?


...yet Wilder vs. Price is?
It is... Did i miss to place it there? I copied from Robney's list...
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:34 PM   #11046
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Robney didn't put it there... not my fault I just copy paste-it. But Kirk made it a round for the WBK so I guess it's there for picking.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:38 PM   #11047
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Yesterday I swear it was listed as scheduled for 10.

Did the WBO only just approve it as a title defense or something?
It has always been scheduled as a WBO-defense. Bouadla has been in the neither region of the ranking ever since he lost to Kessler. Before that he was ranked 5.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:41 PM   #11048
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12/1 - Tyson Fury vs. Kevin Johnson - (UK Channel 5/Wealth TV) - Fury UD - 119-110/119-108/119-108 - Fury controlled the fight from the start, and there wasn't much coming back from KJ. He got a point deducted in the 7th, but that didn't hurt much... from the 9th he just boxed the fight out.
12/1 - Jayson Velez vs. Salvador Sanchez - 10x3 WBC Silver Featherweight Title (Showtime) - Velez TKO3 - Sal Sanchez down at the end of the 2nd, after being pummeled the entire round. Again directly in the 3rd and then finished it pretty quickly... Salvador II is nothing like his late legendary uncle.
12/1 - Austin Trout vs. Miguel Cotto - 12x3 WBA World Light Middleweight Title (Showtime) - Trout UD - 117-111/117-111/119-109 - Trout was scoring the better punches all night while Cotto was the agressor, but there were a lot of close rounds. The 119 score was too wide, I had it 116-112 Trout.
12/4 - Koki Kameda vs. Hugo Ruiz - 12x3 WBA World Bantamweight Title - Kameda SD
12/6 - Raymundo Beltran vs. Ji-Hoon Kim - 10x3 NABF Lightweight Title (ESPN2)
12/8 - Brian Magee vs. Mikkel Kessler - 12x3 WBA World Super Middleweight Title (Denmark PPV)
12/8 - Darren Barker vs. Kerry Hope - (SKY)
12/8 - Juan Jose Montes vs. Sonny Boy Jaro - (Televisa)
12/8 - Giovani Segura vs. Glenn Donaire - (Televisa)
12/8 - Inocente Fiz vs. Roberto Garcia - 12x3 Interim WBA World Light Middleweight Title
12/8 - Nicholas Walters vs. Daulis Prescott - 12x3 WBA World Featherweight Title
12/8 - Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Michael Farenas - 12x3 (HBO PPV)
12/8 - Miguel Vazquez vs. Mercito Gesta - 12x3 IBF Lightweight Title (HBO PPV)
12/8 - Javier Fortuna vs. Patrick Hyland - 12x3 Interim WBA World Featherweight Title (HBO PPV)
12/8 - Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez IV - 12x3 (HBO PPV)
12/14 - Lee Haskins vs. Stephane Jamoye - 12x3 EBU Bantamweight Title
12/15 - George Groves vs. Glen Johnson - 12x3 Commonwealth Super Middleweight Title
12/15 - Ricky Burns vs. Jose Ocampo - 12x3 WBO Lightweight Title
12/15 - Mateusz Masternak vs. Juho Haapoja - 12x3 EBU Cruiserweight Title (Germany ARD)
12/15 - Arthur Abraham vs. Mehdi Bouadla - 12x3 WBO Super Middleweight Title (Germany ARD)
12/15 - Leo Santa Cruz vs. Alberto Guevara - 12x3 IBF Bantamweight Title (CBS)
12/15 - Deontay Wilder vs. Kelvin Price - 10x3 (Showtime)
12/15 - Amir Khan vs. Carlos Molina - (Showtime)
12/15 - Nonito Donaire vs. Jorge Arce - 12x3 WBO Super Bantamweight Title (HBO)
12/15 - Omar Andres Narvaez vs. David Quijano - 12x3 WBO Super Flyweight Title (TyC Sports)
12/17 - Denis Lebedev vs Santander Silgado - 12x3 WBA World Cruiserweight Title
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:41 PM   #11049
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Let me know the changes made to the schedule and I will get it corrected.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #11050
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Kirk you don't include Rigondeaux vs. Kratingdaenggym ? in the League list ?
Also Burns vs Ocampo is off, we decided to replace it with Porter - Diaz....
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Take a look at page 735 at my post.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:50 PM   #11051
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First news I got on these fights:
Juan Jose Montes vs. Sonny Boy Jaro - (Televisa)
Giovani Segura vs. Glenn Donaire - (Televisa)

Is that they have been moved on December 22th.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:51 PM   #11052
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Stieglitz and Wilk are hardly unstoppable...and he didn't stop them over an even longer distance.

He's got all of two real knockouts since moving up to SMW. Taylor had just been softened up by Froch...and Pokemon...well...

The Bozic result IMO is more of a NC, although it's technically listed as a TKO.

Bouadla has only been stopped by Kessler. I don't think he's any less capable of surviving than Stieglitz and Wilk.
Its is 12 rounds, but yeah im not sure that he Abraham can stop Bouadla for the same reasons.

Bozic result is a legit result IMO. Bozic hits Abrahams elbows in Abrahams guard, and gets injured. Abraham didnt do anything illegal and there were no forces from beyond the ring playing a part in it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:35 PM   #11053
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Its is 12 rounds, but yeah im not sure that he Abraham can stop Bouadla for the same reasons.

Bozic result is a legit result IMO. Bozic hits Abrahams elbows in Abrahams guard, and gets injured. Abraham didnt do anything illegal and there were no forces from beyond the ring playing a part in it.
Yeah, but it isn't like Abraham did anything to impose himself on Bozic or beat him other than get his thick arms up in the way. Bozic broke his own hand.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:55 PM   #11054
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Yeah, but it isn't like Abraham did anything to impose himself on Bozic or beat him other than get his thick arms up in the way. Bozic broke his own hand.
Well, yeah, exactly. Not a great way to win, but legit nonetheless
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:12 PM   #11055
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Well, yeah, exactly. Not a great way to win, but legit nonetheless
Fine, but the original context of that getting brought up in conversation was to review Abraham as a power puncher/finisher at 168...which that "TKO" (via opponent self-injury) is not an example of.

He's got two real stoppages to go by. Taylor was dead in the water, and Pokemon is kind of a bum.

He isn't as dangerous at 168 as he was at 160...or else he would've gotten rid of Stieglitz and Wilcewski.
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