**** Kirks ESB Championship 2012 ****

[IntentionalButt]

Originally Posted by Malden

Well, yeah, exactly. Not a great way to win, but legit nonetheless

Fine, but the original context of that getting brought up in conversation was to review Abraham as a power puncher/finisher at 168...which that "TKO" (via opponent self-injury) is not an example of.

He's got two real stoppages to go by. Taylor was dead in the water, and Pokemon is kind of a bum.

He isn't as dangerous at 168 as he was at 160...or else he would've gotten rid of Stieglitz and Wilcewski.

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Fine, but the original context of that getting brought up in conversation was to review Abraham as a power puncher/finisher at 168...which that "TKO" (via opponent self-injury) is not an example of.

He's got two real stoppages to go by. Taylor was dead in the water, and Pokemon is kind of a bum.

He isn't as dangerous at 168 as he was at 160...or else he would've gotten rid of Stieglitz and Wilcewski.

Abraham was really poor against Pokemon.

[PinoyProdigy]

I'm sure the Rigo-Poon fight was there on the list before....

[PinoyProdigy]

DECEMBER FIGHT LIST
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LEAGUE SCHEDULER
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PINOY PRODIGY

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* Result Commentary by Robney
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12/1 - Tyson Fury vs. Kevin Johnson - (UK Channel 5/Wealth TV) - Fury UD - 119-110/119-108/119-108 - Fury controlled the fight from the start, and there wasn't much coming back from KJ. He got a point deducted in the 7th, but that didn't hurt much... from the 9th he just boxed the fight out.
12/1 - Jayson Velez vs. Salvador Sanchez - 10x3 WBC Silver Featherweight Title (Showtime) - Velez TKO3 - Sal Sanchez down at the end of the 2nd, after being pummeled the entire round. Again directly in the 3rd and then finished it pretty quickly... Salvador II is nothing like his late legendary uncle.
12/1 - Austin Trout vs. Miguel Cotto - 12x3 WBA World Light Middleweight Title (Showtime) - Trout UD - 117-111/117-111/119-109 - Trout was scoring the better punches all night while Cotto was the agressor, but there were a lot of close rounds. The 119 score was too wide, I had it 116-112 Trout.
12/4 - Koki Kameda vs. Hugo Ruiz - 12x3 WBA World Bantamweight Title - Kameda SD
12/6 - Raymundo Beltran vs. Ji-Hoon Kim - 10x3 NABF Lightweight Title (ESPN2) - Beltran UD - 98-92/98-92/97-94 - both guys down in the 1st in a very nice round. Beltran took over in the rest of the fight hitting Kim with pretty hurtful shots, but suffered a left hand injury on the way so had some closer later rounds.
12/8 - Brian Magee vs. Mikkel Kessler - 12x3 WBA World Super Middleweight Title (Denmark PPV) - Kessler KO3 - bodyshot KO! Magee down 2 times by bodyshots in the 2nd round and got dropped hard again directly in the 3rd by one, and that was for the count. Feel the power of the VIKING WARRiOR!
12/8 - Darren Barker vs. Kerry Hope - (SKY) - Barker TKO4 - Hope down in the 4th from a big right uppercut, right hook combo... the towell trown in after the next attack.
12/8 - Nicholas Walters vs. Daulis Prescott - 12x3 WBA World Featherweight Title - Walters TKO7- Prescott down in the 4th and 5th and ended in the 7th by a bodyshot.
12/8 - Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Michael Farenas - 12x3 (HBO PPV) - Gamboa UD - 117-109/118-108/117-108 - Farenas down at the end of the 2nd afteer hurting Gamboa first, and was cut on both eyes in the 3rd. Gamboa controlled the fight, but got hurt briefly multiplr times. Farenas down again in the 7th, but hurt Gamboa at the end of the same round. Gamboa down from a huge left hook counter in the 9th while looking for a stoppage himself.
Great fight, but showed the sheer vulnerability of Gamboa against punchers and tough fighters.
12/8 - Miguel Vazquez vs. Mercito Gesta - 12x3 IBF Lightweight Title (HBO PPV) - Vazquez UD - 117-111?/119-109/118-110 - Vazquez outboxed Gesta (who wasn't doing much of everything) from the outside without any problems.
12/8 - Javier Fortuna vs. Patrick Hyland - 12x3 Interim WBA World Featherweight Title (HBO PPV) - Fortuna UD - 118-110/116-112/115-113 - That's all I want to say about this one...
12/8 - Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez IV - 12x3 (HBO PPV) - MARQUEZ KO6 OF THE YEAR! - Pac down in the 3rd by a big right swing, but came back to drop Marquez in the 5th in an amazing round!!! Manny had the best of round 6 but walked onto a huge right hook and was out face first!!!! STILL BUZZING WHILE I WRITE THIS!This might well have the round of the year, be the fight of the year, and have the KO of the year in one fight!
12/14 - Lee Haskins vs. Stephane Jamoye - 12x3 EBU Bantamweight Title
12/15 - George Groves vs. Glen Johnson - 12x3 Commonwealth Super Middleweight Title
12/15 - Mateusz Masternak vs. Juho Haapoja - 12x3 EBU Cruiserweight Title (Germany ARD)
12/15 - Arthur Abraham vs. Mehdi Bouadla - 12x3 WBO Super Middleweight Title (Germany ARD)
12/15 - Leo Santa Cruz vs. Alberto Guevara - 12x3 IBF Bantamweight Title (CBS)
12/15 - Shawn Porter vs. Julio Diaz - 10x3 (Showtime)
12/15 - Deontay Wilder vs. Kelvin Price - 10x3 (Showtime)
12/15 - Amir Khan vs. Carlos Molina - (Showtime)
12/15 - Guillermo Rigondeaux vs. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym - 12x3 WBA World Super Bantamweight Title (HBO)
12/15 - Nonito Donaire vs. Jorge Arce - 12x3 WBO Super Bantamweight Title (HBO)
12/15 - Omar Andres Narvaez vs. David Quijano - 12x3 WBO Super Flyweight Title (TyC Sports)
12/17 - Denis Lebedev vs Santander Silgado - 12x3 WBA World Cruiserweight Title

[PinoyProdigy]

Haskins UD
Groves MD
Masternak TKO
Abraham TKO
Santa Cruz TKO
Wilder TKO
Khan TKO
Rigondeaux UD
Donaire TKO
Narvaez TKO
Lebedev TKO

[BeastsideBoxing]

Originally Posted by PinoyProdigy

Haskins UD
Groves MD
Masternak TKO
Abraham TKO
Santa Cruz TKO
Wilder TKO
Khan TKO
Rigondeaux UD
Donaire TKO
Narvaez TKO
Lebedev TKO

No Shawn Porter vs Julio Diaz ?

[PinoyProdigy]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

No Shawn Porter vs Julio Diaz ?

Updated

[PinoyProdigy]

Porter UD

[Malden]

Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Fine, but the original context of that getting brought up in conversation was to review Abraham as a power puncher/finisher at 168...which that "TKO" (via opponent self-injury) is not an example of.

He's got two real stoppages to go by. Taylor was dead in the water, and Pokemon is kind of a bum.

He isn't as dangerous at 168 as he was at 160...or else he would've gotten rid of Stieglitz and Wilcewski.

Totally agree

[Malden]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

Abraham was really poor against Pokemon.

I even think I had Pokemon ahead

[BeastsideBoxing]

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Originally Posted by PinoyProdigy

Updated

[BeastsideBoxing]

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[Malden]

Originally Posted by Malden

Its is 12 rounds, but yeah im not sure that he Abraham can stop Bouadla for the same reasons.

Bozic result is a legit result IMO. Bozic hits Abrahams elbows in Abrahams guard, and gets injured. Abraham didnt do anything illegal and there were no forces from beyond the ring playing a part in it.

of course not.

The reason that he couldnt stop Wilk and Stieglitz. Not the distance(which is the same 12 rounds as earlier mentioned) Sadly that is the most interesting thing I see about the bout. And to compare Abraham with a Kessler comming of a 14 months of inactivity. Really getting compensated opportunity-wIse for the Sylvester title-shot that went up in smoke due to Sylvester getting infected with some virus.

[Malden]

Wilder TKO.

[Malden]

Originally Posted by BeastsideBoxing

I think he was refering to a UD10 instead of UD12.