Joe Louis vs. Chris Byrd

[beefman180]

Louis would get him eventually but Byrd would win 1 or 2 rounds and make a good account of himself I reckon.

[DudeGuyMan]

Anyone cavalierly stating that Louis would smash Byrd with ease is thinking with their heart, not their head. If Conn could come into the ring as a light heavy and almost pull it off before foolishly engaging and getting obliterated, then the idea that Byrd might, on his best night, just possibly have a shot at winning isn't some ridiculous notion.

Styles make fights, and this is a prime example of a styles matchup that would give a lesser-ranked fighter a legit shot at upsetting a top ATG. There have been plenty of heavyweights who were better fighters than Chris Byrd but who would nonetheless have much worse chances against Louis. This isn't some "Tua would smash Ali!" head-shaking mismatch tardfest.

Again, not saying Byrd should be favored, but he's not hopeless in this matchup either. A path to victory exists, however fraught with danger it may be.

[DDDUUDDDEE]

Garrus you crazy fuck.

Louis "Ikes" him, only faster.

[DudeGuyMan]

Again, styles. Louis in all likelihood punches Ike's fucking brains out in short order, but he doesn't fight the same way as Ike, and will probably have a harder time with Byrd. It's not Dragonball Z, everyone doesn't have a "power level" you can compare for quick reference.

Maybe Louis blows Byrd out. Maybe Louis gets him out late. Or maybe, just maybe mind you, Byrd spoils his way to a UD.

It's a analogous to... I dunno... Tua/Patterson. (Though obviously much different stylistically.) Sure we all know who rates higher. Sure maybe Patterson makes him look like an idiot for 15 rounds. But one can envision a scenario in which the lesser-regarded fighter just maybe pulls off the win.

[DDDUUDDDEE]

Originally Posted by DudeGuyMan

Again, styles. Louis in all likelihood punches Ike's fucking brains out in short order, but he doesn't fight the same way as Ike, and will probably have a harder time with Byrd. It's not Dragonball Z, everyone doesn't have a "power level" you can compare for quick reference.

Maybe Louis blows Byrd out. Maybe Louis gets him out late. Or maybe, just maybe mind you, Byrd spoils his way to a UD.

It's a analogous to... I dunno... Tua/Patterson. (Though obviously much different stylistically.) Sure we all know who rates higher. Sure maybe Patterson makes him look like an idiot for 15 rounds. But one can envision a scenario in which the lesser-regarded fighter just maybe pulls off the win.

It's not?... shit...

[Garrus]

I always confuse you two.

[Bummy Davis]

Byrd would go the way of John Henry Lewis....quick KO for the BB

[the cobra]

Originally Posted by DudeGuyMan

Again, styles. Louis in all likelihood punches Ike's fucking brains out in short order, but he doesn't fight the same way as Ike, and will probably have a harder time with Byrd. It's not Dragonball Z, everyone doesn't have a "power level" you can compare for quick reference.

Quit trying to bring everyone down.

Maybe Louis blows Byrd out. Maybe Louis gets him out late. Or maybe, just maybe mind you, Byrd spoils his way to a UD.

It's a analogous to... I dunno... Tua/Patterson. (Though obviously much different stylistically.) Sure we all know who rates higher. Sure maybe Patterson makes him look like an idiot for 15 rounds. But one can envision a scenario in which the lesser-regarded fighter just maybe pulls off the win.

It's not like Louis had a huge problem with any slick movers. Sure, you'd rather have a guy who could move well up against him then someone who had to take a few shots to get his own in, but Chris Byrd isn't Billy Conn. Billy had been "foolishly" taking the fight to Louis several times throughout the whole fight, and it was a big part of his success. He regularly threw his punches in the mix with Joe's, rather than waiting for him to miss and then retaliate. He often led and jumped in with his own attack before Louis. It ultimately cost him, but if he had fought a strictly defensive, negative type fight, he doesn't put up near the same level performance. Byrd's spoiling would be bothersome to Louis, it'd make him look a little ordinary at times. It might even see him last the distance, but it's not winning him the fight. Not against the best version of Louis.

[red cobra]

Are any of you guys picking Byrd the same ones that think Louis would have snuffed out Jimmy Young?

[ChrisPontius]

Byrd is a good boxer, but I think him fighting Louis would look very much like the Ibeabuchi bout. Louis just comes forward, throwing bombs, knowing Byrd doesn't have much to keep him off - and sooner or later, Joe catches him with something big.

[janitor]

Byrd is under rated.

The way that Vitally Klitschko has gone through the contendere, puts Byrds win over him in a new light.

Perhaps Byrds best win for his resume, was his loss at 175lbs! It ended any doubt about what he was up against.

Picking him over Louis is a stretch tough.

Louis beat Conn, Walcott, Pastor, Ramage. If some of them made him lok bad, they all lost in the end.

[DDDUUDDDEE]

Also, I'll add that Billy Conn was better at virtually everything than Byrd apart from defence, and would beat him H2H.

[DudeGuyMan]

Originally Posted by janitor

Picking him over Louis is a stretch though.

It's a stretch. Just not a "hay guys I dont know shit and think Ibeabuchi would KTFO Foreman" stretch.

[Guyfawkes]

Byrd's defense and black slickness would allow him to survive 10 or 11 rounds but Louis is landing a clean blow eventually and that'll be the end.

[Shake]

Ibeabuchi hunted Byrd down and found him using the same combination over and over again. As good as Byrd was, Louis would only have to find one or two good punches before his finishing ability could take over.