No Bute-Froch II if; KO within 6 rounds or UD > 6 rounds difference

[Nonito Smoak]

Originally Posted by KO Boxing

Yeah, its the same situation if a fighter dominates all rounds and gets the knockout in rounds 7-12. Still a rematch.

It's pretty hard to put in words how to get around this though (other than, of course, only signing for one fight - which I suppose does put Froch at a bit of a disadvantage as he has to travel to Bute's hometown, but as stated, he is the challenger now).

I know it might be complicated, but they could try to enforce some kind of mutual buyout clause.

It would look something like:

If the winner doesn't want the re-match and the loser does, the winner would fess up 22% of his earnings from the first fight. OR if the loser doesn't want the re-match and the winner does, the loser would fess up 13% of his earnings from the first fight.

[IntentionalButt]

Six rounds or six points?

Two different things.

117-111 is a six points difference that is also six rounds.

However, let's say Froch wins 3 rounds but loses 9 and gets knocked down in 3 of them and has a point deducted for desperation fouls...

That would be 117-107 (with the four 10-8 rounds factored in).


That 117-107 is actually a potentially much more dominant win than a ho-hum drama-free 120-108 shutout.

[Steenalized]

I have to imagine if one of the fighters gets dominated but still meets these requirements (say for argument's sake, Bute dominates Froch for 6 rounds then KOs him in the 7th) then both Bute and Froch would see it as a better career move to just not have the second fight.

[drozzy]

Originally Posted by Nonito Smoak

Froch hasn't KO'd anyone since Taylor, before the Super Six started. He's 34 years old now and hasn't scored a KD since then.

A Bute KO is more likely than a Froch KO. A Froch decision would seem to be the only way he wins, and basically for the supposed first fight anyway, that means a draw.

What about Bute's fragile glass mandible from the first Andrade fight?! Does that not count for anything???

The Brits will burn you for "A Bute KO is more likely than a Froch KO".

I don't see Froch being able to land the power punches given the difference in handspeed and considering Bute's head movement (which has improved quite a bit over the years), so Froch UD to me is just not happening. Desperation in the late rounds, who knows what happens, he could corner a tired Bute and finally put the combos together, get a stoppage. The only chance I think Bute has of stopping him is forcing him down to his knees via body punching. Holy hell would that be spectacular, considering Froch's "chin". I respect his actual chin (!) a lot, hence the #3 spot on my probability scale.

[RustBelt]

What If the "STOPPAGE " Is Pre-mature? Or a Buullshit one i should say?

[Earl-hickey]

Ok so what happens if its a fairly close fight that most agree could of gone either way and Bute gets the typical 118-111 type bullshit scores?

[Eastcoast]

Originally Posted by Earl-hickey

Ok so what happens if its a fairly close fight that most agree could of gone either way and Bute gets the typical 118-111 type bullshit scores?

Then he moves on from Froch and KO's Dirrell in August.

[SimplyTheBest]

Originally Posted by Earl-hickey

Ok so what happens if its a fairly close fight that most agree could of gone either way and Bute gets the typical 118-111 type bullshit scores?

Depends, does Marlon Wright save him from a brutal KTFO in the last round via a 20 count?

[PH|LLA]

should be the following
--> Any knockout within 8 rounds
--> Any knockout rounds 9-12 while ahead by more than 2 points on the scorecards (average of the 3 scorecards)
--> Any decision win by over 5 points on the scorecards (average of the 3 scorecards)

[Nosbor]

Good Lord; Like clockwork, everyone heaps on the minutia.

"What if the fanman comes out of the grave and crashes another paraglider into the ring"?

"What if Froch's girlfriend screaches so loud during the fight that it bursts both his eardrums"?

"What if Rumania annexes Moldova and calls Bute back for active military duty"?

[Cafe]

Yea, that's a good idea, I wouldn't want either of them to be locked in for a rematch when it is clearly not needed, just a pure waste of time.

[Joe_MacKenzie]

This makes perfect sense.

If the first fight is close or indecisive, of course we'll want to see a second fight.

But if one of them scores an early KO or dominates on the cards, there will be no need for a second fight.

[Lunny]

Hearn is the best promoter in the game. Promoters are a bit like politicians, slimy and untrustworthy.

Eddie Hearn seems refreshingly honest and straight forward.

and he put Jeff in Prizefighter.

[dru626]

Originally Posted by Nosbor

Good Lord; Like clockwork, everyone heaps on the minutia.

"What if the fanman comes out of the grave and crashes another paraglider into the ring"?

"What if Froch's girlfriend screaches so loud during the fight that it bursts both his eardrums"?

"What if Rumania annexes Moldova and calls Bute back for active military duty"?

ha ha ...this had me laugh loud. Is a very probable scenario. They should add this..

[DrMo]

Its a good idea & common sense, a rarity in boxing these days.

Froch will lose by a wide margin & then fight Kessler late summer

2 good pay days then retire