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Old 01-13-2012, 06:15 AM   #16
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Wow.

I don't know man. I beyond understand having Kameda a lot lower, but you name Broner? And Peterson/Khan?

1. Kameda IS a 3 weight division world champion. Take it for what it is. Won and re-matched a 108 lb title, won a 112, and is has three defenses of his 118 title.

2. A loss in a good fight against an ATG flyweight in Pong at that weight is not a horrible thing like you imply.

3. To jump up two divisions and fight a good string of opponents at bantamweight in Munoz, Diaz, de la Mora, Macias all in the past 13 months is impressive.

4. His victory over Naito is an "A" level victory. Can Lopez or Froch or Guerrero or Narvaez or Broner say they have one of those?
3 division world champ, huh? We won the WBC Flyweight title.. and losing it without defending.. then won the vacant WBA Bantamweight belt when Moreno is the real champ? He's not even ranked top 5 in bantamweight despite the 4 title defenses.. where as Broner/Khan/Peterson are all top 3 in their weight classes. Khan was even on his way to the p4p top 10 rankings before the Peterson loss.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:17 AM   #17
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Khan - Peterson around 40?

Rios 27

Khan and peterson are both ahead of rios.

Lopez + Gurreuro in 20's??

They havn't fought anyone
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:18 AM   #18
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good effort but Maidana over 10 places above Khan ???

Khan and peterson are far too low
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #19
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I like the list but I would move Hopkins much closer in the top ten.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:37 AM   #20
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I don't agree on a few things, but fair play to you sir!

You're a better man than I man for doing this monster
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:53 AM   #21
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I'd have Lucas Matthysse above Devon Alexander, despite the robbery verdict. Thought he beat Judah and Alexander and I've had Alexander losing his last three fights.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:56 AM   #22
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Hell of an effort there Nonito. All in all a good list.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:01 AM   #23
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damn, bro, youre a true fan. your top ten is spot on in my opinion. well played, sir!
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:48 AM   #24
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Maidana is one of my favorites no doubt about it, but number 30?, above Khan and Peterson. I'm not sure about that.

I agree with the post above mine though, your top 10 is great.
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Old 01-13-2012, 10:59 AM   #25
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Marcos Maidana above Khan?
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:06 AM   #26
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I'll be completely honest. I don't agree with a lot of your posts you make when an opinion is expressed, that being said I respect the effort put into this list and I can say that while I may switch around quite a lot of names you have them in the same sort of groupings I do. Good read.

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I'd have Lucas Matthysse above Devon Alexander, despite the robbery verdict. Thought he beat Judah and Alexander and I've had Alexander losing his last three fights.
While reading a robbery of the year thread, while I thought Chisora and Lara where at the end of the most despicable verdicts of the year my heart went out to Matthysse more so. I thought he was robbed in both fights of clear decisions. This should have been his year and should have been the time he took up the mantle of the divisions number 2.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:50 AM   #27
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That's a pretty good list. Well done not sure I could find the time or concentration to do a top 100.

Paul Williams - 49
Erislandy Lara - 73 That's a bit dodgy when Lara was clearly robbed against him.

Other than that I don't have too many complaints.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:00 PM   #28
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How can Rios, Ricky Burns (even though being Scottish I'm a huge fan) and Maidana be above Khan? I'm in no way an Amir Khan fan, especially after the way he's acted after the Peterson loss but I really dont see how you can justify him being lower than those three.

Some effort with the list though, I probably wouldn't even know enough to be able to do a top 100 in all honesty
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:30 PM   #29
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I'd have Lucas Matthysse above Devon Alexander, despite the robbery verdict. Thought he beat Judah and Alexander and I've had Alexander losing his last three fights.
I see that for sure. Beyond respect it.

I scored Matthysse/Alexander to Matthysse by 1 point. I scored Matthysse/Judah to Judah by 1 point. I scored Alexander/Kotelnik a draw. They were all razor close. I think claiming "robbery" on these would make almost every 115-113 fight a robbery.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:35 PM   #30
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I'll be completely honest. I don't agree with a lot of your posts you make when an opinion is expressed, that being said I respect the effort put into this list and I can say that while I may switch around quite a lot of names you have them in the same sort of groupings I do. Good read.



While reading a robbery of the year thread, while I thought Chisora and Lara where at the end of the most despicable verdicts of the year my heart went out to Matthysse more so. I thought he was robbed in both fights of clear decisions. This should have been his year and should have been the time he took up the mantle of the divisions number 2.
Thank you. I'm only ever serious about anything 10% of the time, so, yeah that may explain it.

I think what you touched on is what people miss out on. People get caught up in the whole individual placement of so-and-so and so-and-so, but it's more so groupings and general assessments relative to your view of their achievements and your perceiving of their skill.

About Matthysse, couldn't agree more. Imagine the kind of match-ups he would have given us/be giving us. Also, a shame he pulled out of the Morales fight.
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