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Old 12-29-2007, 03:06 PM   #16
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The reason I started of with that is to help you understand that you should learn from real experience. Lots of armchair fitness experts and boxing experts out there.

Once again, there is a reason why all successful trainers have their fighters do roadwork. Ignore that at your own peril. That is, if you plan to actually step in the ring!
actually i dont plan to step in the ring as a pro, but what is your name and your record?

i too could say i am a pro boxer.....

"i'm a pro boxer..."
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:29 AM   #17
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God I'm so sick of the silly "the pros do it!!" argument people always use. Think about it for a second. Professional athletes more often than not have great genetics and many could easily still be great DESPITE their shitty or outdated practices.
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:12 AM   #18
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God I'm so sick of the silly "the pros do it!!" argument people always use. Think about it for a second. Professional athletes more often than not have great genetics and many could easily still be great DESPITE their shitty or outdated practices.
Professional athletes have access to the best trainers in the world.
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:22 PM   #19
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alot of fighter dont run and hate running, how do they last the 12?
I have never heard of any good professional who doesn't run.

running is essential. swimming, biking, whatever else, will not have the same benefits. bag work and jumping rope are also necessary - in different ways - so it's stupid to say 'that's all you need'. I do not see how you can ignore running.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:44 AM   #20
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I have never heard of any good professional who doesn't run.

running is essential. swimming, biking, whatever else, will not have the same benefits. bag work and jumping rope are also necessary - in different ways - so it's stupid to say 'that's all you need'. I do not see how you can ignore running.
me personally i enjoy running, but there are boxers who dont run, evander holyfield never runs, the only time he ran was when he was being trained by manny steward, and even then manny had to run with him to make sure he runs,

like virus said, running trains a energy system, it can be done other ways.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:04 AM   #21
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i gotta agree with young monzon , you gotta run as a fighter. running is hard, builds disclipline. all of my boxers run, i would not switch running for anything.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:06 PM   #22
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like virus said, running trains a energy system, it can be done other ways.
yeah, but that's not all it does. You get the leg strength and endurance you need in the ring. Also, you're moving on your feet, which is obviously what you're doing in boxing. You're strengthening your ankles and the bones in your legs. Something like swimming won't have all these effects...neither will biking. It's the best form of conditioning, aside from sparring .

evander holyfield is a pretty-boy bodybuilder who happened to have enough talent to succeed, and he is one rare example of a fighter that doesn't run
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:20 PM   #23
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yeah, but that's not all it does. You get the leg strength and endurance you need in the ring. Also, you're moving on your feet, which is obviously what you're doing in boxing. You're strengthening your ankles and the bones in your legs. Something like swimming won't have all these effects...neither will biking. It's the best form of conditioning, aside from sparring .

evander holyfield is a pretty-boy bodybuilder who happened to have enough talent to succeed, and he is one rare example of a fighter that doesn't run
that is a very stupid statement, evander was one of the most hardest working heavyweights of all time, manny steward says he never saw anyone work as hard as evander did, he would bust his ass day in day out, even to this day he is one of the best conditioned heavyweights,

it wasn't his fault he had such a phyisique, i guess you think mike tyson is also a pretty boy bodybuilder huh?
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:55 PM   #24
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I didn't say holyfield was lazy, I said he was a pretty boy bodybuilder, which he is. And he's stupid not to run.

and tyson is a warrior.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:36 PM   #25
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I didn't say holyfield was lazy, I said he was a pretty boy bodybuilder, which he is. And he's stupid not to run.

and tyson is a warrior.
what do you mean by pretty boy body builder?
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some people are just more focused on aesthetics than others; you can sense it in their attitude.
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Old 01-01-2008, 12:41 PM   #27
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this depends on what you want to gain from your exercises, if your doing them for muscle endurance then doin them straight after boxing training is fine, if your looking for speed, strength or explosive gains doing the exercises straight after the boxing will not offer any substantial gains in these departments and should be done when the body is rested.

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Old 01-01-2008, 12:43 PM   #28
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some people are just more focused on aesthetics than others; you can sense it in their attitude.
holyfield is more of a warrior than tyson ever will be, holyfield fights his heart out, what makes you think he is more focused on aesthetics?
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holyfield is more of a warrior than tyson ever will be, holyfield fights his heart out, what makes you think he is more focused on aesthetics?
Because he uses weights
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Because he uses weights
so did tyson?

but he is a warrior, even if he does want to eat peoples children.
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