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Old 12-29-2007, 11:55 AM   #31
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He was smiling while counting Mundine out
everybody was...
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:28 PM   #32
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:31 PM   #33
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The german corner always know the score during the fight - Ottke was tolled he was ahead. Ottke never did more than needed - Mundine did fine considering, but he wasn't winning - not in Germany anyway.

Boxrec has no record of the score. And I haven't been able to find the official scores anywhere.
OK, I'm a bit thin-skinned when German boxing is described as corrupt.
I know there have been terrible decisions but I don't think it's worse than in Britain, for example.
Let's hope that there will be no controvercial decision today.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:52 PM   #34
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This is getting very interesting.

I am very curious about these allegations and wonder why I havnt heard of this earlier.
You wouldnt hear it here in Oz brutha teke , to many haters and opposition nutthuggers on this forum. You might like to try a German boxing forum.i reckon youd get more of a debate in Ottkes homeland of Germany as opposed to Mundine ever getting much support in his Own country. They''ll always find sumthin to criticise brutha choc about.No matter who he knocks out . At least he has his peoples support.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:36 PM   #35
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OK, I'm a bit thin-skinned when German boxing is described as corrupt.
I know there have been terrible decisions but I don't think it's worse than in Britain, for example.
Let's hope that there will be no controvercial decision today.
Not to talk of Italy or Denmark

Well one thing is for sure - Ottke always knew the score when he fought - hell even German television sometimes filmed over the shulder of the judges...
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:20 PM   #36
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i watched all ottke`s 21 title fights and IMO nothing wrong with the gloves in the mundine fight

gatti was useless and just made excuses for his defeat throwing out the loaded gloves comment.

faetter is right with the ottke new the scoring remark.

there was an overhead casino type camera with zoom lens whcih focused in on the scorecards plain as day.
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:05 PM   #37
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i watched all ottke`s 21 title fights
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Old 12-29-2007, 03:09 PM   #38
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Regarding the scoring at the time...
Mundine was behind by 1 on 2 cards and 2 or 3 on the other if memory serves me right.

He would have needed a KO to win had he got up from the KO. mundine did get 2 points deducted for headbutting though (which seems a bit steep).

It's been said recently (last 3 or so years) in reference to that fight that Mundine was ahead. Barry Michaels and even Kostya have said it in commentary but it's not true.
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:06 PM   #39
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You poor man.
i even did the round by rounds on esb but i never had to work my fingers to hard.

round 1/
ottke lands a jab
round 2
ottke lands a jab
round 3/
crowd go wild ottke throws a right
round 4/
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round 5/
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:35 PM   #40
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i even did the round by rounds on esb but i never had to work my fingers to hard.

round 1/
ottke lands a jab
round 2
ottke lands a jab
round 3/
crowd go wild ottke throws a right
round 4/
quiet round
round 5/
ref warns opponent for hitting ottke


In regards to the scores, yea Ottke was leading by 1-2 points on the all the cards.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:23 PM   #41
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i even did the round by rounds on esb but i never had to work my fingers to hard.

round 1/
ottke lands a jab
round 2
ottke lands a jab
round 3/
crowd go wild ottke throws a right
round 4/
quiet round
round 5/
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:17 AM   #42
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The german corner always know the score during the fight - Ottke was tolled he was ahead. Ottke never did more than needed - Mundine did fine considering, but he wasn't winning - not in Germany anyway.

Boxrec has no record of the score. And I haven't been able to find the official scores anywhere.
Actually, there such a comment on Boxrec, but I think it's been posted by someone other than a Boxrec editor. Boxrec used to have the scores listed for the fight, and Mundine was definitely behind on all 3 cards at the time of the stoppage.

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Old 12-30-2007, 01:18 AM   #43
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Speaking of that fight, was it just me or was the ref ****ing horrible?

He counted all the way to 10 while kneeling over Mundine's prone body before waving the fight off
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:20 AM   #44
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lol



you wouldnt believe how much that was argued on here a few years back hehe

oh the memories
I seem to remember Gay Gav claiming a ping pong ball could KO a man if it hit him in the right spot
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:29 AM   #45
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I seem to remember Gay Gav claiming a ping pong ball could KO a man if it hit him in the right spot
I still have the pic i made from that thread somewhere.

You do realise Mutt that I will be bringing this "Loaded Gloves" theory up in 5-10 yrs time when there is a younger population posting here who werent quite old enough at the time to know better

This Urban Legend wont be a myth then
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