Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 - Page 2

sweet_scientist · 08-13-2012, 02:49 AM

Monzon would knock him out AND outbox him before doing so. Before 10 rounds are through.

lufcrazy · 08-13-2012, 04:12 AM

I think Nunn would be winning on points all throughout the match as he's more athletic and a greater technician imo.

However as his pace slows I think Monzon would come on late to stop him in come from behind fashion.

Both phenomenal talents but I give Carlos the edge by ko.

frankenfrank · 08-13-2012, 04:44 AM

Nunn was not n undersized Emile Griffith or better yet Jose Napoles . In fact , he was significantly bigger than Benevenuti , and then significantly better .

Unless Nunn comes in drained , Monzon finds that nothing he could do against his undersized and most of times also underqualified opponents works on d bigger , better Nunn .

Stevie G · 08-13-2012, 05:49 AM

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How would this one have played out? it's always been one fantasy matchup that's intrigued me due to both fighters styles.

Good one. I go for Monzon. To strong and good overall. Nunn's cute enough to take Carlos the distance.

PowerPuncher · 08-13-2012, 07:07 AM

I think Nunn could be too quick and tall and rangy for Monzon. It takes away Monzon's best tool in his jab and his size and means he has to come forward more, which in turn means Nunn can counter him on the way in

Monzon does have the timing and more of a smarter use of range. But this style could just be all wrong for him

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Nunn's best victory was against an aged slugger in Iran Barkley, Monzon would grind him down and spit him out...I love Nunn but seriously!

No his best victory was Kalambay for the lineal championship, who was a better boxer than anyone Monzon faced

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Monzon would use the style he used vs Benvenuti. He would rough up Nunn and take him out with a right hand, like I said before, ala Benvenuti. There is a huge difference in class here.

Nunn is allot bigger and faster than Benvenuti, Benvenuti was a bit past prime too

lufcrazy · 08-13-2012, 07:14 AM

Yeah kalambay > barkley.

One of the best victories in mw history was nunn blitzin sumbu.

Flea Man · 08-13-2012, 07:29 AM

Monzon bigger than the likes of Curry and Starling too.

PowerPuncher · 08-13-2012, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Monzon bigger than the likes of Curry and Starling too.

Smaller welterweight champion gives middleweight champion problems but he ultimately prevails, sounds similar to Napoles and Griffith against Monzon, who in turn had attributes similar to Nunn

Flea Man · 08-13-2012, 07:46 AM

Exactly my point. So shut the fuck up.

Lester1583 · 08-13-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

I don't think Nunn was 'great' at any point of his career.

You weren't impressed by Tate fight?

PowerPuncher · 08-13-2012, 08:14 AM

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Exactly my point. So shut the fuck up.

So your point was both showed frailties that each other could exploit?

Bokaj · 08-13-2012, 08:19 AM

Am not at all versed on Monzon, but did he beat anyone who was even close to being as good a MW as Kalambay?

That doesn't necissarily have any bearing on a hypothetical match-up beween Monzon and Nunn, but just out of curiousity.

Lester1583 · 08-13-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bokaj

Am not at all versed on Monzon, but did he beat anyone who was even close to being as good a MW as Kalambay?

Past-prime Valdez was the best MW Monzon (past-prime himself) beat.

Valdez who was a very good fighter fought nothing like Kalambay, obviously.

No, Monzon never beat anyone who was as good a MW as Kalambay.

Flea Man · 08-13-2012, 09:38 AM

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So your point was both showed frailties that each other could exploit?

My point is everyone bringing up Griffith and Napoles only needed to be reminded Nunn wasn't the infallible uber boxer he's often made out to be. Griffith's tactics in the 2nd fight look nothing like what Nunn has ever done anyway, and Napoles won one round based on a good half a round. Hardly showing massive faults in Monzon's style IMO.

As I say, Starling was bullying Nunn at the end of the fight. Starling. Marlon Starling.

ripcity · 08-13-2012, 01:58 PM

I think the way to sum up how I fell about this match up is this. Michael Nunn has the ability to beat anyone at 160, but Carlos Monzon has the ability to beat everyone at 160.
I like Carlos Monzon in a close fight.

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08-13-2012, 02:49 AM	#16
sweet_scientist Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,301 vCash: 1000	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 Monzon would knock him out AND outbox him before doing so. Before 10 rounds are through.
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08-13-2012, 04:12 AM	#17
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,711 vCash: 330	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 I think Nunn would be winning on points all throughout the match as he's more athletic and a greater technician imo. However as his pace slows I think Monzon would come on late to stop him in come from behind fashion. Both phenomenal talents but I give Carlos the edge by ko.
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08-13-2012, 04:44 AM	#18
frankenfrank Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,961 vCash: 3950	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 Nunn was not n undersized Emile Griffith or better yet Jose Napoles . In fact , he was significantly bigger than Benevenuti , and then significantly better . Unless Nunn comes in drained , Monzon finds that nothing he could do against his undersized and most of times also underqualified opponents works on d bigger , better Nunn .
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08-13-2012, 07:14 AM	#21
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,711 vCash: 330	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 Yeah kalambay > barkley. One of the best victories in mw history was nunn blitzin sumbu.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,059 vCash: 75	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 Monzon bigger than the likes of Curry and Starling too.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,059 vCash: 75	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 Exactly my point. So shut the fuck up.
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08-13-2012, 08:19 AM	#27
Bokaj Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 12,312 vCash: 1000	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 Am not at all versed on Monzon, but did he beat anyone who was even close to being as good a MW as Kalambay? That doesn't necissarily have any bearing on a hypothetical match-up beween Monzon and Nunn, but just out of curiousity.
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ripcity Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." Posts: 12,046 vCash: 856	Re: Carlos Monzon vs Michael Nunn @160 I think the way to sum up how I fell about this match up is this. Michael Nunn has the ability to beat anyone at 160, but Carlos Monzon has the ability to beat everyone at 160. I like Carlos Monzon in a close fight.
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