Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > British Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-17-2012, 07:46 AM   #541
Boxing&Blues
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 113
vCash: 500
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

BORKED

Apparently Floyd Sr does this bit to all the new fighters he trains.
Boxing&Blues is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-17-2012, 08:28 AM   #542
slip&counter
Gimme some X's and O's
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: In that 3 feet of stew again...
Posts: 12,448
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line and all that.
slip&counter is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 08:43 AM   #543
Black2023
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,489
vCash: 500
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by brown bomber View Post
Serious?
Yeah swift head movement after punching was intelligent.

It always reminds me of what makes top fighters, sometimes it the guy that keeps at it rather than the guy that is better that makes it to the top.
Black2023 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 08:54 AM   #544
Jdsm
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: North East, England.
Posts: 1,093
vCash: 1947
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

I'd like to add another example to my post from page 15.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML5WLvrc0P8[/ame]

Just after 8 minutes, fantastic.
Jdsm is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 09:05 AM   #545
atberry
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,476
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
atberry is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 09:42 AM   #546
SkillspayBills
Mandanda Running E-Pen
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 10,848
vCash: 500
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

.

Quote:
'Everything comes from the jab. If you don't naturally have punching accuracy, which I was fortunate to have, then you cannot hope to box or punch without getting your jab working and landing. But the thing to have in mind is it goes both ways - if the opponent cannot hit you with his jab, less can come off for him, which is why learning to defend effectively against the jab can be even more important than usage of your own jab. You can slip it or you can catch it.

'You slip it by moving your head quickly out of its trajectory. The most effective way to slip a jab is to move diagonally outside, before pulling out of range. Slipping develops reflexes and teaches a fighter not to flinch. The novice is likely to close his eyes or turn away when he sees a punch coming. Eventually, slipping becomes an instinctive reaction, and the fighter develops the mental ability to stay focused under pressure.

'To catch, you use the palm of the right hand glove to take the sting and accuracy off the jab, and although it appears to be a simple movement, mastering it requires reflexes, accuracy and instinctive reaction. In order to catch effectively, the technique must be a short, economical movement. Overextention sets you up for a double jab. When catching, remember to keep your left hand relaxed and ready to counter. If you are close enough to catch a punch, you are close enough to deliver a punch.'


-currently training the Angolan Olympic Team
SkillspayBills is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 10:37 AM   #547
slip&counter
Gimme some X's and O's
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: In that 3 feet of stew again...
Posts: 12,448
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Atberry, where is that breakdown of Eubank? I thought you'd relish it.
slip&counter is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2012, 08:47 PM   #548
slip&counter
Gimme some X's and O's
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: In that 3 feet of stew again...
Posts: 12,448
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spearmint Rhino View Post
Miranda would have made Taylor look exceptional
One last thing about Jermaine. I think moments get too big for him and he panics in certain situations. For the best fighters things slow down in the big moments. But for Taylor things just get faster and faster and he reverts to type when he's under the gun. I've never seen a fighter at the top level fail to do so many right things at the right times. That's what separates the good and the great sometimes. Doing the right things at the right times.
slip&counter is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2012, 12:33 AM   #549
slip&counter
Gimme some X's and O's
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: In that 3 feet of stew again...
Posts: 12,448
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxing&Blues View Post
BORKED

Apparently Floyd Sr does this bit to all the new fighters he trains.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nISlgfOomPI[/ame]
slip&counter is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2012, 10:50 AM   #550
izmat
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,805
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxing&Blues View Post
BORKED

Apparently Floyd Sr does this bit to all the new fighters he trains.
Looks like standard wing chun/jkd concepts. Jack Dempesy also talks about non-telegrapic straightline punching in his book as well.
izmat is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2012, 10:52 AM   #551
brown bomber
2010 Poster of the Year
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 15,455
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black2023 View Post
Yeah swift head movement after punching was intelligent.

It always reminds me of what makes top fighters, sometimes it the guy that keeps at it rather than the guy that is better that makes it to the top.
I'll get there thank you
brown bomber is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2012, 11:12 AM   #552
dftaylor
Writer, fanatic
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 10,404
vCash: 500
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

The Michael Jai White video is excellent. It's a shame those sort of technical lessons aren't being adopted.
dftaylor is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2012, 09:37 AM   #553
GPater11093
Barry
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Scotland
Posts: 19,025
vCash: 836
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Fighting a Southpaw

Now there is one school of thought about fighting a southpaw:
- Get your lead foot on the outside of their lead foot
- Straight rights and left hooks

This is a great example of it.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7WpEbwwV6A[/ame]

With getting your foot onthe outside of the opponents lead foot, you open up the 'pipe' for yourself, and close it for him. That means your straight right is ideally positioned to travel straight to your opponent's jaw. And your opponents straight left if thrown straight should be easy to deflect outside with your right hand.

This position also opens up the left hook as you get extra leverage on your hook, and take away that leverage from your opponent.

However, there is some other techniques you can use to combat southpaws.

Firstly, you don't have to get your lead foot on the outside of theirs. As often southpaws are experts at keeping control of the lead foots, so its hard and distracting to try and control it, so you need another line of attack. When your lead foot is inside the opponents' your jab is in between their gloves and can travel straight to the jaw. It is a really effective punch against an aggressive southpaw, or a southpaw who fights quite squared up. Gilberto Roman shows us its uses in the first round here.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2DAG20Uz4[/ame]

This can also be a sort of transitional game, Juan Manuel Marquez, he kept his foot inside Manny Pacquiao's and would jab, and as he jabbed step his foot outside Pacquiao's to set up the right hand. It was a lovely move he does over and over again in their first bout.

Another thing is that most southpaws like to counterpunch so forcing them to lead with feints and conceding movements is a great way to controll the bout. Bernard Hopkins is the expert at this. As an orthodox fighter and facing a southpaw your range is slightly messed up as your opponents shoulders are reversed so its hard to judge your distance the same, so often when attacking either fighter over-reaches or under-reaches so if your playing the counter-puncher its on a plate for you.

Another tactic is get inside. When inside your not really 'orthodox' or 'southpaw' but more squared up and none of the advanatges or disadvanatages exist.
GPater11093 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2012, 09:48 AM   #554
achillesthegreat
FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 18,266
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

Lets analyse David Hayes destruction of Chisora and Charles
achillesthegreat is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2012, 10:44 AM   #555
brown bomber
2010 Poster of the Year
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 15,455
vCash: 1000
Default Re: The all things technical thread.

He had a WAR hat in his back pocket.
brown bomber is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > British Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013