++++Manny Pacquiao vs Timothy Bradley: Technical/Tactical Breakdown Thread++++

[teeto]

this thread needs bumping after the fight

[perspicacity]

http://www.notifight.com/artman2/upl...Brad300NF1.jpg


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm2CpYqYpY4[/ame]

[izmat]

^Looks like a different guy in the top pic

So Manny will be training seriously for this fight:

Alex Ariza @ArizaFitness
If he we train the way he's says, there well be no leg problems...

Alex Ariza @ArizaFitness
I plan on leaving first part of March, start per conditioning....

Alex Ariza @ArizaFitness
Mannys said this fight, he's wants to go back to focusing on building power and speed like we did before. I LIKE IT!!!

Alex Ariza @ArizaFitness
Just left the Champ... Excited that he's ready to get to My way of training for this fight.

[Spearmint Rhino]

Wasn't it Ariza's way against Marquez, and he still got his ass kicked?

[izmat]

Originally Posted by Spearmint Rhino

Wasn't it Ariza's way against Marquez, and he still got his ass kicked?

I don't know but I think in the past, Ariza suggested that Khan was more enthusiatic about the conditioning training compared to Pacman

[SkillspayBills]

Roach is concerned.

"I'm not saying [Bradley] is the last fight. Maybe I can fight one more. I don't know. I have a casino and sold it and all my roosters, stopped drinking alcohol and everything that's not good for following the commandments of God. Boxing, for me, hitting each other is not good. So I was thinking I'm not going to stay long in boxing," Pacquiao told USA Today.

Freddie Roach, who trains Pacquiao, is a bit concerned with his boxer's new lifestyle changes. He doesn't know how the lifestyle changes will affect Pacquiao in the gym.

"I haven't seen Manny yet, but I know he's got a very strong faith in God. But I haven't seen him so I haven't seen any changes or anything like that. We'll get ready for the fight. If it's not there, it's not there, and I'll probably tell him to retire," Roach told USA Today.

[slip&counter]

This had me in tears...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ7Xrq30PFw[/ame]

[JFT96]

I can't see any way that Manny won't win this one in truth and I'm saying that despite having a great deal of respect for Bradley as a fighter. He is the epitome of a world class fighter in my mind but I dunno, to me he just seems someone who is very good in most areas but not special in any particular one. Very good defensively, tactically, very comfortable on the inside and adept on the back foot with respectable, if not fearsome power. But I just feel that to beat an ATG like Manny, even though he's looked off key in his last few fights, he's going to need a bit more than that.

In this type of superfight, I always feel that you want to go in there and be the one to impose your style from the off. But the problem for Bradley is that we've seen how comfortable and adept Pacquiao is at fighters who look to cut off the ring to him. Ok fair enough, the likes of Margarito might not have been as smart as Bradley in doing it but there's no doubt, Manny favours that style as it allows him to step in, throw, move to the side and let go from a different angle. It's what makes him so difficult to fight and when he gets uin a good rhythm of that, he's nigh on impossible to stop.

The key to whether Pacquiao fights well always seems to be his footwork. If he's allowed to spin to the side, step in and out and dicate the pace with his movement, he will win. But as has been seen he struggles when forced to lead off and has a problem with over stretching and losing his balance. So it would normally be fair that to beat him, fighting on the outside is the best option.

But I think this weakness has been over estimated after his problems in the last 2 fights. Remember he had Mosley down early and looked liked ending it but after that round, he literally couldn't near him because of Sugar Shane's overly negative tactics. And Marquez is a completely different obstacle to Bradley. JMM has so much success countering vs. him IMO because when he counters, he does it on combos. And accurate, hard combinations. He has Pacquiao thinking and worrying when attacking which seriously affects a naturally explosive fighter in my view.

Now Bradley has shown himself to be a very good counterpuncher when necessary. It's what beat Peterson in a pretty flawless performance I thought. But I just don't think a repeat of that would work vs Manny. First off, the counters he were landing were single shots and then he moved away. Plus Peterson was in truth plodding and just following him around the ring which made it a whole lot easier for him to get out of range after punching. Pacquiao won't allow that IMO- for all the negativity surrounding his ability to fight on the front foot after the Marquez perfromance, I still think he is very good at it. His footwork in general is excellent and he wouldn't be quietened like Peterson was if Bradley decided to employ them tactics.

So that leaves him in a bit of catch-22 position I feel about what he should do and that won't help him one bit vs. Pacquiao. I'd rather he looked to press the action going forward because that's what he does best and by making it rough on the inside as he's prone to do, he may offset Pacquiao's rhythm. But in reality, I see him losing this fight quite conclusively, possibly by KO. I think Manny will relish the chance to work on the inside with him if necessary and by starting his attacks with body work, I can see him opening up Timmy's defence and landing his combos. A knockout would be some statement but for instance with the 1st Holt knockdown, we've seen that if left open Bradley can be caught with big punches.

I'm looking forward to the fight and think it will be intriguing but I can't predict anything other than a Pacquiao win.

[SkillspayBills]

Courtesy of Bogotazo in GF.

The video can be found on the bottom of this page: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Enjoy.


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Announcer Dude (Jorge Eduardo Sanchez): Here we are in the Golpe A Golpe Ring- Juan Manuel Marquez, Jorge Eduardo Sanchez. We have a little bit of time, so let’s go Juan; we have to talk of Tim Bradley against Manny Pacquiao on June 9th. It would seem that Pacquiao takes it easily, but let’s elaborate beyond the short of it: If they picked Bradley so that Pacquiao would shine, they already made a mistake.

JMM: Yes, it seems that they did it with that goal in mind, so that Manny Pacquiao would look his best, but we know that Timothy Bradley is a very difficult fighter due to the style he has: very fast, very elusive, and very hard to hit, regardless of the speed that Pacquiao has. Bradley is a fighter who’s always moving to all sides, who also ducks down very low (side steps and ducks down); you can’t hit him, and he uses lateral steps well (jabs while stepping); he uses his speed a lot (throws combination.) But it’s trouble if he stands in front of Pacquiao, because Manny Pacquiao is a quick fighter, an aggressive fighter. But what Timothy Bradley can do is use lots of lateral steps, crouch, and suddenly throw (circles, crouches, and throws), quickly; throw very quickly. And the important thing that I think he’s going to do is not allow for Pacquiao to get comfortable with the shots that he can throw at a distance.

Announcer Dude: Manny Pacquiao landed on you in a certain moment in this last fight you had against him; the changing of the angle, with those marvelous feet Pacquiao has…

JMM: Yes…

Announcer Dude: In one given moment, he notoriously employed that game of footwork, doing a dance, and he succeeded in getting in a right hook. If Bradley doesn’t study that, he can end up going (down) to the canvas.

JMM: What happens, what Pacquiao has studied well, is that you jab, and he waits on it and throws the right hook (throws jab, takes counter over the top). Always he’s waiting, he’s waiting for you to throw the jab so that he can catch you there (takes hook), and take advantage of that moment. If Bradley doesn’t throw the jab quickly and keep back-stepping, he can find himself in danger with that right hand.

Announcer Dude: It’s going to be much more difficult than the people think.

JMM: That’s right; much more difficult, because that’s his style. He’s very elusive, very fast, and he moves very quickly as well.

[bigboxingfan]

I think Bradley will do well in this fight. Bradley has better footwork, conditioning, ring IQ, and a good right hand against southpaws then Pacquiao's recent opponents (bar maybe Marquez). What I can see hurting Bradley is that he naturally likes going forwards most of the time and applying intelligent pressure. Bradley likes to bring it. Pacquiao isn't the guy he should try to 'bring it' against. Having said that, Bradley has shown that he can also fight a different fight. He certainly didn't bring it against Abregu. He thought the guy was a big puncher so he was more cautious and fought a very different fight.

He should make Pacquiao come to him. Bradley has the reach advantage I believe, so good footwork and control of range should help him here. Bradley has a great counter right, which will be very useful in this fight.

As for what concerns I have regarding Bradley in this fight: I can see Bradley getting hurt or dropped if he gets too ambitious and runs into a Pacquiao counter himself. Other than that, Bradley isn't a very good combination puncher. He tends to get sloppy, arm punch, and lose form when he lets go with multiple punches (see Bradley-Alexander rd 1 with Alexander on the ropes).

This is what I have been thinking of so far. Maybe I'll write some more later as I think about this fight

[Uncle Rico]

Apparently, Pacquiao will be looking to revert to some of the tactics (lateral movement and angles) used in the Oscar fight. The article and video is taken from Bogotazo's thread in the general:

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By Roy Luarca

MANNY Pacquiao has started strategizing so he could punch through Timothy Bradley’s defenses when they tangle for the World Boxing Organization welterweight championship on June 9 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

The Filipino eight-division world champion said he intends to apply the same tactics and techniques he used in stopping Hall of Fame-bound Oscar De La Hoya after eight lopsided rounds on Dec. 6, 2008.

In that career-defining fight, Pacquiao used lateral movements, went in and out, side to side, and exploited awkward angles to confound De La Hoya, who was 1/2 inches taller at 5-foot-10, and eventually force the former Olympic and six-division champion to quit on his stool.

Bradley, at 5-6, is half an inch shorter than Pacquiao and five years younger at 28. And even though he’s the WBO light welterweight king, the American walks around at 160 pounds.

The unbeaten Bradley (28-0 with 12 knockouts), notorious for his head-first lunges, is no plodder.

Bradley’s broad body

Though familiar with Bradley’s antics, Pacquiao said he may still engage him at short range and attack his foe’s broad body to break him down.

Pacquiao revealed his fight plan to broadcaster Snow Badua of Teleradyo Sports last Friday, more than two weeks away from the official start of his Baguio City training camp on April 16.

Heeding trainer Freddie Roach’s advice of a longer training period in the United States, Pacquiao said his Baguio camp will end on May 5.

Team Pacquiao then heads to Los Angeles a day or two later for the final phase of his training at Roach’s Wild Card Gym in Hollywood.

To prepare for the tough grind ahead— Roach is arriving in the country on April 15—Pacquiao has been jogging in the early morning at Brentville International in Mamplasan, Laguna.

The ring superstar also did sprints, limbering exercises and light training when he visited his constituents in Sarangani province.

Pacquiao is coming off an unimpressive majority decision victory over Juan Manuel Marquez last November and admittedly wants a better performance against Bradley.

Though he has been installed a heavy favorite by Las Vegas oddsmakers, Pacquiao said he is not taking the American lightly.

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[Uncle Rico]

And when it was pointed out that those angles and lateral movements were used in a more defensive manner against a slow, stationary Oscar, and that a defensive, more mobile Bradley will be nothing like that, Bogotazo clarifies....

I agree that he shouldn't focus on outboxing his opponents. Though when they're referring to the DLH fight, I think they chose that template because they expect Bradley to come forward. There seem to be two basic ways to beat Manny; educated and dynamic pressure coming forward on the inside, and defensive lateral movement away from the left hand mixed in with counter-punching. I suspect Bradley is going to try both. Manny's biggest problem as of late has been being far too stationary, linear, and giving away his factor of unpredictability. He'd rather feint and "catch" his opponents with just a few punches now than seize an opening straight away.

The DLH fight highlights everything Pacquiao does best; throwing a variety of punches (when's the last time he threw a right hook to the body? Margarito?), circling right after landing the left hand, neutralizing the jab and right hand by circling, using his upper body to confuse his opponents, jumping to different angles to counter and walk his opponents into shots, etc. If Bradley comes forward, this is the way to go, and if Manny can stop following his opponents and cut off the ring better, using these tactics to come in with more dynamic angles is the best way to surprise and catch Bradley.

[SkillspayBills]

Keep it going lads, cracking stuff .

Revert back to lateral movement , Can his legs hold out for 12 rounds?. I'm not so sure...

[Uncle Rico]

I fuckin' hope they can. He's gonna' be doing a hell of a lot more chasing and cutting than he's used to.

[Uncle Rico]

Provodnikov.

To be used as Pacquiao's sparring partner:

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