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Old 02-13-2012, 11:47 PM   #46
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I take what you said about the thread I created that I and many posters contributed to, especially since I've spent countless hours of research and testing it to see what would and wouldn't work in combat situations, very personal.

This forum IS real life because some of us that give advice actually do and compete and we try to pass it on to those willing to listen. When Virus, Mr. Small, lefty or Brown Bomber speak up, I shut the **** up and digest what they say because they know and BB competes at a much higher level thn you'll ever probably see.

I don't give a shit about whether you see your family or not, what I do give a shit about is you giving some newb the wrong impression and pushing a shitty program that will more than likely end up failing them. THAT'S what bothers me.
You know nothing about my level of training or what I do to compare it to anybody elses. This forum is real life? Maybe you should get out more often.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:53 AM   #47
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You know nothing about my level of training or what I do to compare it to anybody elses. This forum is real life? Maybe you should get out more often.
I know enough that your level of training sucks as much ass as you do and the majority agrees.

As for the real life dig, if you don't think this is "real life" (whatever the **** you mean by that)then I guess everything you claim here is false. Chew on that for a minute, Captain window licker.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:17 AM   #48
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I often do sets of 20 on some weights machines with a lower weight, particularly back shoulders and arms. My reasoning is that it helps build muscle endurance, People slating this CHAL guy need pause to think for one second. Lower weight and high reps are more specific to boxing as boxing is an endurance sport. High weight and low Reps Build strength but also cause continual tears to the muscles and build more muscle material which is not necessarily required in boxing and is therefore inefficient. All that being said I do work out with higher weights and lower reps. Particularly my legs as I believe it is very important to have strong legs. I typically only lift weights 1-2 times a week though.

Also for amateur boxing I believe long drawn out runs are totally pointless and counter productive. If you must go for a longish run, run 3-4 miles max using fartlek technique, otherwise stick to the treadmill and run sprint intervals of 6 x 2 minutes with one minute break cranking it up a notch on every run. or 10x 1 minute with 1 minute break cranking the jog and sprint speed a little notch everytime. You can mix it up.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:21 AM   #49
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I know enough that your level of training sucks as much ass as you do and the majority agrees.

As for the real life dig, if you don't think this is "real life" (whatever the **** you mean by that)then I guess everything you claim here is false. Chew on that for a minute, Captain window licker.
How can you say this. CHAL has found a training method othat works for him and thats fair enough. It might not be how you'd train but who are you to say it's the wrong way?

People do some weird and wonderful things in training that might seem completely pointless and irrelevant, but if it works for them who are you to insult them for doing it... At least they are training, which is probably more than what you do.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:54 AM   #50
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What you posted/what you've been doing is almost a perfect example of what not to do to build strength for combat sports/boxing.
It's not really a way to build strength for any sport lol.

Basically see all of Primate's post. The End.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:56 AM   #51
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High weight and low Reps Build strength but also cause continual tears to the muscles and build more muscle material which is not necessarily required in boxing and is therefore inefficient.
You're so right. Muscle and strength have no place in boxing.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:10 AM   #52
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You're so right. Muscle and strength have no place in boxing.
**** off you sarky bastard. You know exactly what I meant, and that is that excess muscle material is inefficient for boxing which is a fact and why boxers looks like this

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Old 02-14-2012, 10:15 AM   #53
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Aww, sensitive much? Thank you for showing your maturity level.

You're further proving your lack of knowledge if you believe simply that low reps + high weights = mass. There's much more to it. Ever hear of nutrition?

Way to also post a pic of a guy who openly admits to taking steroids. That's very relevant to the discussion.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:19 AM   #54
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I often do sets of 20 on some weights machines with a lower weight, particularly back shoulders and arms. My reasoning is that it helps build muscle endurance, People slating this CHAL guy need pause to think for one second. Lower weight and high reps are more specific to boxing as boxing is an endurance sport. High weight and low Reps Build strength but also cause continual tears to the muscles and build more muscle material which is not necessarily required in boxing and is therefore inefficient. All that being said I do work out with higher weights and lower reps. Particularly my legs as I believe it is very important to have strong legs. I typically only lift weights 1-2 times a week though.

Also for amateur boxing I believe long drawn out runs are totally pointless and counter productive. If you must go for a longish run, run 3-4 miles max using fartlek technique, otherwise stick to the treadmill and run sprint intervals of 6 x 2 minutes with one minute break cranking it up a notch on every run. or 10x 1 minute with 1 minute break cranking the jog and sprint speed a little notch everytime. You can mix it up.
Improving strength improves endurance at the same time. Improving strength by lifting heavy weights for low reps is building a stronger neuromuscular connection, that's training your nervous system to recruit more muscle fibres more easily.
High volume like you're suggesting hypertrophies muscle more than low reps, what's more it's going to be slow twitch fibres that you're building up. Pretty pointless for a contest that goes for 9 minutes.
Stretching tears a muscle, everything you do basically tears muscle.

I don't understand why you call boxing an endurance sport (imo nothing as short as a boxing contest could be called endurance) and advocate light weight lifting to build endurance but then say that long runs are pointless?? It's the exact same thing.
Lifting light weights for endurance in boxing is ridiculous, wouldn't you be better off doing bodyweight exercises? Or better yet, actually boxing?
If you're going to supplement your boxing training with some exercise then wouldn't you do something that works an aspect of fitness that doesn't get worked on specifically while you're boxing? Why waste time and energy lifting light weights for endurance. Pointless.
The only time anyone is going to get anything out of doing 20 reps of an exercise is if they're coming back from injury or they haven't trained before. 20 reps for deadlifts is just ridiculous.
I like how Chal says he can do around 20 pull ups and if you have a look at his routine it says 3x20 wide grip then 3x20 normal...
It's the shittest routine I've ever seen and he doesn't even do it yet he suggested it to others. He deserved the ridicule.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:24 AM   #55
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**** off you sarky bastard. You know exactly what I meant, and that is that excess muscle material is inefficient for boxing which is a fact and why boxers looks like this

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****ing clown
That big guy there like all bodybulders has built up his slow twitch fibres through sheer volume of exercise, doing relatively light weights for many reps. If you train the way you do everyday and target different muscle groups, as well as eat lots and take steroids you could look like that as well.
Got **** all to do with lifting heavy weights for low reps.
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Improving strength improves endurance at the same time. Improving strength by lifting heavy weights for low reps is building a stronger neuromuscular connection, that's training your nervous system to recruit more muscle fibres more easily.
High volume like you're suggesting hypertrophies muscle more than low reps, what's more it's going to be slow twitch fibres that you're building up. Pretty pointless for a contest that goes for 9 minutes.
Stretching tears a muscle, everything you do basically tears muscle.

I don't understand why you call boxing an endurance sport (imo nothing as short as a boxing contest could be called endurance) and advocate light weight lifting to build endurance but then say that long runs are pointless?? It's the exact same thing.
Lifting light weights for endurance in boxing is ridiculous, wouldn't you be better off doing bodyweight exercises? Or better yet, actually boxing?
If you're going to supplement your boxing training with some exercise then wouldn't you do something that works an aspect of fitness that doesn't get worked on specifically while you're boxing? Why waste time and energy lifting light weights for endurance. Pointless.
The only time anyone is going to get anything out of doing 20 reps of an exercise is if they're coming back from injury or they haven't trained before. 20 reps for deadlifts is just ridiculous.
I like how Chal says he can do around 20 pull ups and if you have a look at his routine it says 3x20 wide grip then 3x20 normal...
It's the shittest routine I've ever seen and he doesn't even do it yet he suggested it to others. He deserved the ridicule.

I do light weights for 20 reps as quickly and explosively as I can I never said I only do it that way... It seems to work for me. I also do low reps and high weight just not regularly as is makes my muscles stiff and pumped. I also box 4 times a week and the majority of my training consists of body weight exercises, punching bag, skipping and sparring. Variety is the key and I don't think there is any right or wrong way and long as you manitain proper form, keep your training mixed up and don't over train
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Do you advocate 20 pressups or is that too many and therefore only building slo twitch fibres? because according to you that is essentially what you're doing.

No one should ever do 20 of anything?
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Aww, sensitive much? Thank you for showing your maturity level.

You're further proving your lack of knowledge if you believe simply that low reps + high weights = mass. There's much more to it. Ever hear of nutrition?

Way to also post a pic of a guy who openly admits to taking steroids. That's very relevant to the discussion.
Maturity level?

You showed yours by making by taking only a section of what said, taking out of context and presenting as if I said something different, so you could make an uneccessary sarcastic comment about it.

Now tell me who's mature.

And if I'm so lacking in knowledge, explain why I am so ripped and muscular. Surely someone with a lack of knowledge couldn't achieve this?
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Maturity level?

You showed yours by making by taking only a section of what said, taking out of context and presenting it is if I said something else, so you could make an uneccessary sarcastic comment about it.

Now tell me who's mature.

And if I'm so lacking in knowledge, explain why I am so ripped and muscular. Surely someone with a lack of knowledge couldn't achieve this?
First name calling, now bragging? Your insecurities are almost overwhelming...yet entertaining.
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