Floyd is the GOAT at 130?

megavolt · 03-06-2012, 11:09 PM

Don't get me wrong, he looks really good there and has beaten some notable fighters but a lot of it is based on how he looked moreso than who he beat.

We have:
Diego Corrales

Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy

Below this, we have the likes of-
Jesus Chavez

and after that no one else even worth noting.

So I don't know where this ultra hype is coming from, not when there's names floating around like Nelson, Chavez, and Arguello or even the fab 4 that came after him

MichiganWarrior · 03-06-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by megavolt

Don't get me wrong, he looks really good there and has beaten some notable fighters but a lot of it is based on how he looked moreso than who he beat.

We have:
Diego Corrales

Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy

Below this, we have the likes of-
Jesus Chavez

and after that no one else even worth noting.

So I don't know where this ultra hype is coming from, not when there's names floating around like Nelson, Chavez, and Arguello or even the fab 4 that came after him

Who did Chavez, arguello and Nelson beat who were better ar the weight?

You forgot famoso hernandez and Gregario Vargas btw.

megavolt · 03-06-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganWarrior

Who did Chavez, arguello and Nelson beat who were better ar the weight?

You forgot famoso hernandez and Gregario Vargas btw.

make me type up an essay now

Because of the available competition you'll have to fight outside of the weightclass in question- people are contending that he was the GOAT at 130 because of how he looked, so lets say we include the surrounding two weight classes, who can we include? Just Castillo. N'dou is more along the likes of Jesus Chavez, not really noteworthy.

Nelson? He has guys like Ruelas, Fenech, Leija at the end of his career, and even Gomez who moved up and beat Lockridge these are much bigger names

Arguello's resume is a little more sporadic with the weights but he beat the great Olivarez at 126 who many have in the top 5 (top 3?) ATG mexicans. He SMASHED Escalera who had been in a great streak of successful defenses. TWICE. He also beat Ruben Castillo who was 46-0 (I know you guys love dat 0)

JCC, well, he beat Uncle Roger

, Lockridge, Ramirez (who went on to beat whitaker once), Rosario

I'm not trying to go too deep with the names there just the top few wins otherwise I'd be giving them credit for wins that I'm criticizing Floyd over.

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Carlos Hernandez was a total nobody. After getting his ass whooped by G Hernandez he fought a bunch of cans until he got his title shot with Floyd. (For teh lolz he later loses to Blow blow Pacquiao later on as well)

Vargas lost to the guy above. Nuff said

bballchump11 · 03-06-2012, 11:58 PM

Resume wise, he's not the best, but overall, he maybe. I don't like saying he's the GOAT there, but I can't tell you who is. Floyd is definitely a contender though

Mrpacman · 03-06-2012, 11:59 PM

I saw Floyd fight a lot fights at 130.

Pacman would beat him. Floyd too offensive and pac would walk through him and hurt him to body.

Pac by KO 12...better than what Mayweather do at 147 cuz Pac stop him in 8 there but still Pacman beat him worse at 130.

JoeCamelTow · 03-07-2012, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bballchump11

Resume wise, he's not the best, but overall, he maybe. I don't like saying he's the GOAT there, but I can't tell you who is. Floyd is definitely a contender though

Well said.

FLoyd's resume is highly overrated. Most of those guys mentioned(at 130) were no more than B-level fighters.

megavolt · 03-07-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrpacman

I saw Floyd fight a lot fights at 130.

Pacman would beat him. Floyd too offensive and pac would walk through him and hurt him to body.

Pac by KO 12...better than what Mayweather do at 147 cuz Pac stop him in 8 there but still Pacman beat him worse at 130.

Get this Pac shit out of here, this thread is about Floyd

megavolt · 03-07-2012, 12:05 AM

For all his accolades at 130 he had certainly missed the boat on fighting Freitas and Casamayor there as well

Mrpacman · 03-07-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by megavolt

Get this Pac shit out of here, this thread is about Floyd

Ok well Floyd not as good as people think at 130. He never beat any of top fighter and duck Freitas and Casamayor. He used money as excuse.

the cobra · 03-07-2012, 12:10 AM

If you make the list primarily on H2H, then he's got as good a case as any. His resume really can't compete with that of Arguello, but it's definitely solid. I'd have him at #3, all things considered.

Mrpacman · 03-07-2012, 12:11 AM

There was a Filipino fighter (not sure of name) that was much better than Floyd at 130.

SJS19 · 03-07-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrpacman

I saw Floyd fight a lot fights at 130.

Pacman would beat him. Floyd too offensive and pac would walk through him and hurt him to body.

Pac by KO 12...better than what Mayweather do at 147 cuz Pac stop him in 8 there but still Pacman beat him worse at 130.

Where are you from?

MVC · 03-07-2012, 12:12 AM

The people who voted no are Pactards. Enough said.

Mrpacman · 03-07-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SJS19

Where are you from?

Calacoon

DavidChao · 03-07-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MVC

The people who voted no are Pactards. Enough said.

State your case or learn some boxing history.

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megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,676 vCash: 75	Floyd is the GOAT at 130? Don't get me wrong, he looks really good there and has beaten some notable fighters but a lot of it is based on how he looked moreso than who he beat. We have: Diego Corrales Genaro Hernandez Angel Manfredy Below this, we have the likes of- Jesus Chavez and after that no one else even worth noting. So I don't know where this ultra hype is coming from, not when there's names floating around like Nelson, Chavez, and Arguello or even the fab 4 that came after him
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Mrpacman Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 496 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd is the GOAT at 130? I saw Floyd fight a lot fights at 130. Pacman would beat him. Floyd too offensive and pac would walk through him and hurt him to body. Pac by KO 12...better than what Mayweather do at 147 cuz Pac stop him in 8 there but still Pacman beat him worse at 130.
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