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View Poll Results: Floyd is the goat of 130
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:21 AM   #16
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Arguello was the GOAT at 130. Whoever mentioned the Whitaker Ramirez fight don't forget to qualify it as one of the biggest robberies in history.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:22 AM   #17
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poll show real result. stupid flomo
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:23 AM   #18
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If you make the list primarily on H2H, then he's got as good a case as any. His resume really can't compete with that of Arguello, but it's definitely solid. I'd have him at #3, all things considered.
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:43 AM   #19
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make me type up an essay now

Because of the available competition you'll have to fight outside of the weightclass in question- people are contending that he was the GOAT at 130 because of how he looked, so lets say we include the surrounding two weight classes, who can we include? Just Castillo. N'dou is more along the likes of Jesus Chavez, not really noteworthy.

Nelson? He has guys like Ruelas, Fenech, Leija at the end of his career, and even Gomez who moved up and beat Lockridge these are much bigger names

Arguello's resume is a little more sporadic with the weights but he beat the great Olivarez at 126 who many have in the top 5 (top 3?) ATG mexicans. He SMASHED Escalera who had been in a great streak of successful defenses. TWICE. He also beat Ruben Castillo who was 46-0 (I know you guys love dat 0)

JCC, well, he beat Uncle Roger , Lockridge, Ramirez (who went on to beat whitaker once), Rosario

I'm not trying to go too deep with the names there just the top few wins otherwise I'd be giving them credit for wins that I'm criticizing Floyd over.

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Carlos Hernandez was a total nobody. After getting his ass whooped by G Hernandez he fought a bunch of cans until he got his title shot with Floyd. (For teh lolz he later loses to Blow blow Pacquiao later on as well)

Vargas lost to the guy above. Nuff said
Why are you counting fights not at 130 moron. lucky im on my iphone or id destroy this bullshit. And Famoso and Vargas were both champions. Somebody failed on boxrec.


Did your dumbass just count ramirez "win" over Whitaker?
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:52 AM   #20
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Why are you counting fights not at 130 moron. lucky im on my iphone or id destroy this bullshit. And Famoso and Vargas were both champions. Somebody failed on boxrec.


Did your dumbass just count ramirez "win" over Whitaker?
one of worse flomos on esb.shut up flomo, Pac destroy Floyd in 4
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:55 AM   #21
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Why are you counting fights not at 130 moron. lucky im on my iphone or id destroy this bullshit. And Famoso and Vargas were both champions. Somebody failed on boxrec.


Did your dumbass just count ramirez "win" over Whitaker?
I explained why I included other weights in the post dumbass. Is this all you can come up with? Those two are NOT names. Thats like giving someone like Pac credit for Fahsan 3k ****ing Battery

Of course the Ramirez match was close and Whitaker won the rematch. It doesn't change the fact that a W is a W

If this his how you come to argue I cant wait till you come to "destroy" whatever..
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:55 AM   #22
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In terms of achievements top 5... H2h its hard seeing him lose to anybody... Maybe arguello gets to the chin... Idk hes one of the goats there
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:31 AM   #23
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I explained why I included other weights in the post dumbass. Is this all you can come up with? Those two are NOT names. Thats like giving someone like Pac credit for Fahsan 3k ****ing Battery

Of course the Ramirez match was close and Whitaker won the rematch. It doesn't change the fact that a W is a W

If this his how you come to argue I cant wait till you come to "destroy" whatever..
The fight was close?

Time to discontinue your internet cafe time Pactard.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:29 AM   #24
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The fight was close?

Time to discontinue your internet cafe time Pactard.
Of course different viewers will see it diffeent ways, I have it controversial to Whitaker but I can see where the robbery could have come from, but a W is still listed as a W. but you're digressing from the main point

Is it because you can't find a way to defend Floyd? Looks like it. Keep sucking his nuts
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:33 AM   #25
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WTF!!!!!

One Flomo stated he is the 2nd greatest 130 fighter after Aaron the Hawk Pryor quite a while ago. And they claim they know boxing!

One thing is certain, Flomos are dumb.
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:43 AM   #26
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GOAT period !
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:58 AM   #27
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Kid Chocolate.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:10 AM   #28
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Nah
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:33 AM   #29
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With harsh criteria for the ATG of a weight class, I'd letter grade his wins at 130 as the following.

A+ wins:
Diego Corrales
Genaro Hernandez
*Corrales was an undefeated, P4P ranked matchup nightmare. Genaro was the lineal champ and is a top 10 super featherweight on his own, and undefeated at the weight, his only loss to Oscar at LW. And the fights were massacres. Floyd did things to these two that no one else had.

B+ wins:
Jesus Chavez
Angel Manfredy
* Manfredy was hot going into their fight in Dec of '98. The winner was almost certain to win Fighter of the Year. The Chavez win was very good and played out impressively. Chavez was only ranked behind Freitas and Casamayor at the time in the semi-clear cut order of 130 at the time.

C- wins:
Carlos Hernandez
Carlos Gerena
* The Gerena Round 1 is one of my favorite Mayweather rounds. These fights were somewhat impressive in their own way. The Hernandez win wasn't dominant, but a guy like Carlos Hernandez is no chump.

D wins:
****** Juuko
Carlos Rios
Gregorio Vargas
* These defenses meant little. They serve as showcases and defenses against top 15-20 type guys.

-1998 Fighter of the Year

-Lineal champion with 8 defenses with 3+ years as champ.
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:29 AM   #30
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Top 3 overall.

H2H number 1 arguably.
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