Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis?

McGrain · 03-09-2012, 03:48 AM

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antcull · 03-09-2012, 04:14 AM

Definitely IMO. Obviously didn't hurt Lewis and it was own bad positioning and balance that caused him to touch down but you would have the rule a KD as it was a result of the punch.

Akinwande had a decent punch on him, would have been nice to see what he could do with a bit more of a fighters mentality. All he's remembered for now is his performance in this fight

PowerPuncher · 03-09-2012, 04:25 AM

Well maybe, depends if you see it as the punch or push that put him down, as Henry's forearm went on the back of Lennox's neck and looked like it may have pushed him down.

Akinwande is an underrated HW though, great speed and technique for such a huge HW. If he faced Holyfield instead he might have given him all kinds of trouble (wasn't that scheduled and Akinwande got sick?)

Boxed Ears · 03-09-2012, 04:40 AM

Well, here it is on a loop:

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It's difficult for me to tell and it's one of those speculation KD's where the ref can't make a definitive right call/mistake because only the fighters know, in my opinion.

I lean toward Akinwande's push/pulling and leaning as being more the result, if forced to pick which I thought it was. I really doubt he hurt Lewis even if he got him off balance from the actual punch.

Hattons Hook · 03-09-2012, 04:53 AM

I dont think the punch touched him, could have been scored as a KD though.

Legend X · 03-09-2012, 05:22 AM

The left hand definitely landed, the right looked like a push.

I don't really know what happened, but Lewis gave a bit of a grin a few moments later, which is usually an indication that the opponent did something of value.

DonBoxer · 03-09-2012, 07:14 AM

He dosent land clean on Lewis, then pushes him. Thats how i see it.

Turner72 · 03-09-2012, 07:55 AM

Didn't Mills Lane acknowledge after the fight that he made a mistake in not calling it a knockdown?

Boxed Ears · 03-09-2012, 08:28 AM

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Didn't Mills Lane acknowledge after the fight that he made a mistake in not calling it a knockdown?

All I remember him acknowledging is that they "got it on".

Bummy Davis · 03-09-2012, 08:32 AM

from what i can see it does not look like a strong punch connected but Lewis knee touched the canvas from a top of the head shot so could be a KD, obviously he was not that hurt of AKaw did not follow up

salty trunks · 03-09-2012, 11:31 AM

It was a knockdown. How many times did Lewis do the very same thing to his opponents and knock them down? Land a big right and follow up by pushing them down or leaning on top of them. I always hated that tactic he used and its the same thing Wlad does now against his opponents.

Threetime no1 · 03-09-2012, 11:37 AM

I'd have no probs with it being called a knockdown. He touched down so it is in the rules. Plus it would have had absolutely no bearing on the fight.

It was more to do with balance and Akinwande leaning on him than the punch actually putting him down, if infact it even landed.

I think Akinwande had the tools to give Lewis a tough night, shame Henry didn't think the same.

Momus · 03-09-2012, 02:25 PM

I think it's easy to over analyse these things. Akinwande landed a punch, and Lewis' glove touched the canvas directly afterwards, which should be scored a knockdown.

Not a "hard" or "clean" knockdown, and utterly irrelevant in the overall scheme of things, but a knockdown nonetheless.

Momus · 03-09-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Threetime no1

I think Akinwande had the tools to give Lewis a tough night, shame Henry didn't think the same.

I think he had the style to give Holyfield problems, especially if Evander had one of his off nights. It would probably have been a better route for Akinwande to take, as he wouldn't have been as intimidated against the smaller Holyfield as he would have been against Lewis.

Mentally he seemed beaten before the fight started.

Threetime no1 · 03-09-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Momus

I think he had the style to give Holyfield problems, especially if Evander had one of his off nights. It would probably have been a better route for Akinwande to take, as he wouldn't have been as intimidated against the smaller Holyfield as he would have been against Lewis.

Mentally he seemed beaten before the fight started.

I'd go along with this.

Akinwande's major flaw was his lack of self belief. Something Evander had in spades. But yeah stylistically i'd agree with you he could of coursed him problems.

Incidentally for similar reasons i wanted to see Bruno fight Holy, it would of been interesting to me.

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antcull Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 5,464 vCash: 75	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? Definitely IMO. Obviously didn't hurt Lewis and it was own bad positioning and balance that caused him to touch down but you would have the rule a KD as it was a result of the punch. Akinwande had a decent punch on him, would have been nice to see what he could do with a bit more of a fighters mentality. All he's remembered for now is his performance in this fight
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PowerPuncher P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 20,386 vCash: 1000	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? Well maybe, depends if you see it as the punch or push that put him down, as Henry's forearm went on the back of Lennox's neck and looked like it may have pushed him down. Akinwande is an underrated HW though, great speed and technique for such a huge HW. If he faced Holyfield instead he might have given him all kinds of trouble (wasn't that scheduled and Akinwande got sick?)
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Boxed Ears Lowering Post Count East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: If here, hell Posts: 22,199 vCash: 16214	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? Well, here it is on a loop: [IMG]******i44.tinypic.com/10ehht1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]******i43.tinypic.com/5amerl.jpg[/IMG] It's difficult for me to tell and it's one of those speculation KD's where the ref can't make a definitive right call/mistake because only the fighters know, in my opinion. I lean toward Akinwande's push/pulling and leaning as being more the result, if forced to pick which I thought it was. I really doubt he hurt Lewis even if he got him off balance from the actual punch.
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Legend X Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,386 vCash: 1000	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? The left hand definitely landed, the right looked like a push. I don't really know what happened, but Lewis gave a bit of a grin a few moments later, which is usually an indication that the opponent did something of value.
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Bummy Davis Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 8,239 vCash: 1000	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? from what i can see it does not look like a strong punch connected but Lewis knee touched the canvas from a top of the head shot so could be a KD, obviously he was not that hurt of AKaw did not follow up
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03-09-2012, 11:31 AM	#11
salty trunks Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,172 vCash: 500	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? It was a knockdown. How many times did Lewis do the very same thing to his opponents and knock them down? Land a big right and follow up by pushing them down or leaning on top of them. I always hated that tactic he used and its the same thing Wlad does now against his opponents.
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03-09-2012, 11:37 AM	#12
Threetime no1 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Lion's Den Posts: 3,287 vCash: 1537	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? I'd have no probs with it being called a knockdown. He touched down so it is in the rules. Plus it would have had absolutely no bearing on the fight. It was more to do with balance and Akinwande leaning on him than the punch actually putting him down, if infact it even landed. I think Akinwande had the tools to give Lewis a tough night, shame Henry didn't think the same.
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03-09-2012, 02:25 PM	#13
Momus Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 718 vCash: 500	Re: Do you think Akinwande knocked down Lennox Lewis? I think it's easy to over analyse these things. Akinwande landed a punch, and Lewis' glove touched the canvas directly afterwards, which should be scored a knockdown. Not a "hard" or "clean" knockdown, and utterly irrelevant in the overall scheme of things, but a knockdown nonetheless.
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