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Old 03-10-2012, 10:34 AM   #1
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Default Wlad Klitchko V (Pre Manny Steward) Lennox Lewis

i can see Wlad outboxing lennox but getting caught late on

Lewis KO 10
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:43 AM   #2
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Whichversion of Wlad?
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:12 AM   #3
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Whichversion of Wlad?
The peak one of the last 3 years
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:52 AM   #4
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Lennoxs physical peak was pre manny. However his great athleticism was one of the only things that was better and didn't compare to Lewis around the 97-98 years with manny in his corner. More focused and with a great trainer in his corner helped him dominate the 90s and early 00s. With manny he wins by KO without I think it's a 50-50 fight, but I'd slightly favour wlad as Im not sure if Lewis would be ready for one of the toughest tests of his career
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:11 PM   #5
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Funny, I always said this fight would be decided by who has Manny in their corner.

That given, the matured Steward coached Wlad cautiously outboxes say...the raw Lewis of the Bruno fight. Wlad showed great composure and late fight stamina when Haye hurt him. He'll bear hug when he needs to, reset, and keep boxing confidently. Bruno never got past that, he would have ran out of gas, blanked and suffered a heart breaking defeat if Haye buzzed him with that right cross.

On the other coin, flip flop this topic and Lewis is going to blast pre-Steward Wlad out...aka Sanders.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:36 PM   #6
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Still Lennox by KO, Wlad is heavily overrated, on achievement he's a top 10 ATG Heavyweight, but he doesn't rank as highly H2H. Has he ever beaten a decent fighter his own size? Lewis blew out the likes of Grant, Golota, beat Bowe in the olympics, Razor Ruddock and Vitali Klitschko.
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Old 03-10-2012, 12:42 PM   #7
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Prime Wlad by decision over pre-prime Lennox.

Prime Lewis beats prime Wlad but pre-prime Wlad, the offensive machine who went all out and ran out of stamina and actually showed stuff like combinations, uppercuts and so on consistently, is IMO a greater threat to prime Lewis than current Wlad.
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Still Lennox by KO, Wlad is heavily overrated, on achievement he's a top 10 ATG Heavyweight, but he doesn't rank as highly H2H. Has he ever beaten a decent fighter his own size? Lewis blew out the likes of Grant, Golota, beat Bowe in the olympics, Razor Ruddock and Vitali Klitschko.
he's the complete opposite. Wlad's ranking is completely based on H2H rather than resume as he has faced pretty poor opposition throughout his career
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:00 PM   #9
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Prime Wlad by decision over pre-prime Lennox.

Prime Lewis beats prime Wlad but pre-prime Wlad, the offensive machine who went all out and ran out of stamina and actually showed stuff like combinations, uppercuts and so on consistently, is IMO a greater threat to prime Lewis than current Wlad.
Interesting post. I think there's real logic behind this idea. No way does a risk free wlad beat Lewis however Lewis would be more vulnerable to someone that brings the fight to him (Vitali for example) However I don't know if he could take the shots Vitali did.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:11 PM   #10
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Still Lennox by KO, Wlad is heavily overrated, on achievement he's a top 10 ATG Heavyweight, but he doesn't rank as highly H2H. Has he ever beaten a decent fighter his own size? Lewis blew out the likes of Grant, Golota, beat Bowe in the olympics, Razor Ruddock and Vitali Klitschko.
He's not in my top 10...not yet.

I don't rank wins based off the size of the opponent.

But...


Wlad dominated McCline who was heavier, just as tall, and had a longer reach.

As for Grant...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8K8NKhoWeo[/ame]
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:52 PM   #11
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Been mulling over this for a while before posting.

The ****y confident Lewis of the early 90's was a very good offensive machine and his athleticism was very impressive for a man of his size.

Against this version of Wlad, he would come out swinging.

Can Wlad keep him outside with his jab? not a chance, Lewis has been backed up a few times in his career, but the success never lasts long and people have to take punishment to keep him there (apart from rahman in the first who backed lewis against the ropes quite easily before belting him with that huge right). Can Wlad be the stronger man in the clinch? I doubt it, Lewis will get close and hurt him uppercuts, plus Lewis will have a speed advantage and his durability would outlast wlad imo.

Wlad's chance is catching Lewis with a huge right as Lewis is throwing (much like riddick did). Wlad would probably have to stiffen Lewis quite quickly with the jab and unleash the right bomb flush to win this fight. His 1-2 is very very quick, Lewis from then made enough mistakes that wlad could catch him with his chin in no man's land.

If Wlad lets Lewis dictate the pace, he'll get blown out of the water. He has to hit him hard and hurt him to win this. His hands are quick enough, and Lewis back then was risky enough for it to happen.

As for my prediction? Wlad will be overly cautious behind the jab, whilst that works wonders against smaller opponents (he can grab if they get close) it will allow Lewis an opportunity to get mid range and push his shit in.

I think in the HW division, pre-manny Lewis can lose to almost anyone because most big guys can bang and his chin won't hold up to a flush bomb. That being said, the bomb has to land for him to lose. Whilst I'd give almost anyone that punchers chance, it si just that, a punchers chance. Some will hit the jackpot, some won't. most of the time, they won't imo. Lewis was a great great boxer that can't be taken lightly. Whilst Wlad could bang him at any dont in the fight, I don't think he will.

I think Lewis pushes Wlad's shit in.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:59 PM   #12
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IfLewis comes out Agressive he can bomb out Wlad in 3
Otherwise I see Lewis losing afew rounds but winning a late
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Old 03-10-2012, 05:22 PM   #13
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Default Re: Wlad Klitchko V (Pre Manny Steward) Lennox Lewis

I see Lewis bombing Wlad out by just going crazy on him.
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Old 03-10-2012, 05:28 PM   #14
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I think Wladimir Klitschko's success is a product of the division that has surrounded him over the past 5-8 years..

Any version of Lewis >>>>>>>>Wlad.
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Old 03-10-2012, 05:32 PM   #15
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I think Wladimir Klitschko's success is a product of the division that has surrounded him over the past 5-8 years..

Any version of Lewis >>>>>>>>Wlad.
Lewis's success, anyone's success is a product of the division that surrounds them.

The lewis from the first rahman fight gets his shit pushed in by today's wlad.

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