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Old 03-10-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default Dwight Muhamad Qwai vs James Toney

Cruiserweight or lightheavy, whichever.
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:30 PM   #2
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Toney schools him at either weight IMO
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:19 PM   #3
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Qawi ****s him up. It's actually a pretty bad match up for James.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:14 PM   #4
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Qawi's workrate, physicality, and own defensive and counterpunching skill wins him this fight very clearly. Toney would be in over his head against Qawi, who was much more advanced a fighter as compared to guys like Jirov and Barkley.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:17 PM   #5
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Both are very talanted, skilled fighters with an iron chin and excellent defence, both are great counterpunchers.

It's a tough call
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:23 PM   #6
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Qwai wins a wide decision.
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:44 PM   #7
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Qawi, as Quenzell McCall and Wesley Mouzon pointed out, was actually an outside fighter who had to be developed by them to learn to fight on the inside. With Toney, I think Dwight would be able to box at his preferred range, largely keeping James at distance with his era best counter jab. This would be a rough match for Light's Out, whose work rate wouldn't be sufficient to keep up with the Buzzsaw. Ike may have been the biggest stylistic nightmare of anybody in the early 1980s. His reach is 71 inches to Toney's 72 inches, and nobody was better at optimizing their reach than Qawi.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:51 PM   #8
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Great fight at cruiserweight if Toney comes in similar shape to the Ramon Garbey or Adolpho Washington fights. both would have went at it. too tough to call though. we don't really know how they'd have dealt with each other's style, so it's 50/50. At light heavy I'll pick Qawi by decision, just because Qawi was great at lhw. but Toney was not bad there, especially in his Anthony Hembrick fight and inside fighting masterpiece against Freddie Delgado. Qawi has just beaten the much better fighters at lhw.
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Old 03-10-2012, 08:01 PM   #9
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I'm going Qawi in a extremely close fight. Nip and tuck. He was a dawg of all dawgs. Underrated.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:05 PM   #10
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Qawi, as Quenzell McCall and Wesley Mouzon pointed out, was actually an outside fighter who had to be developed by them to learn to fight on the inside. With Toney, I think Dwight would be able to box at his preferred range, largely keeping James at distance with his era best counter jab. This would be a rough match for Light's Out, whose work rate wouldn't be sufficient to keep up with the Buzzsaw. Ike may have been the biggest stylistic nightmare of anybody in the early 1980s. His reach is 71 inches to Toney's 72 inches, and nobody was better at optimizing their reach than Qawi.
Great post as usual,Duodenum
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:07 PM   #11
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I'm going Qawi in a extremely close fight. Nip and tuck. He was a dawg of all dawgs. Underrated.
I personally believe it wouldn't have been that close.Toney never beat anyone nearly as good as Dwight.And James was brilliant at talking trash and getting under an opponents skin.Against tough guy Qawi,that's irrelevant.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:02 PM   #12
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Dwight didn't possess the power to K.O. James that's for sure, and although his workraye would trouble him, its nothing Toney hasn't experienced before

I think Dwight's wide shots would be slipped and ducked all night, with Toney throwing counter left hooks to the body and counter rights all night long, also this is a rare bout were Toney enjoys a height advantage, so perhaps he even brings his underrated jab into play
Imo Toney takes a wide UD
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:17 AM   #13
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Dwight didn't possess the power to K.O. James that's for sure, and although his workrate would trouble him, its nothing Toney hasn't experienced before
No, this one obviously goes the limit.
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I think Dwight's wide shots would be slipped and ducked all night, with Toney throwing counter left hooks to the body and counter rights all night long, also this is a rare bout were Toney enjoys a height advantage, so perhaps he even brings his underrated jab into play
Imo Toney takes a wide UD
Not sold. Qawi's body was well guarded against and poorly positioned for hooking at, and he rode out rights to the head very well (as he showed against Saad Muhammad in their first match).

Good discussion and great thread topic, by the way.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:20 AM   #14
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Toney gets beaten up here but goes the distance. Qawi's jab in his teeth all night long.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:36 AM   #15
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Two hard men ... no KO here ... I like Qwai based on work rate ... Toney was never terrifically conditioned from weight drain to fat and I see a much busier Qwai out pointing him at 175 ...
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