Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez

MMJoe · 03-14-2012, 07:30 PM

Slugger vs Boxer 12 rounds, who wins?

Senor Pepe' · 03-14-2012, 07:39 PM

The Vilomar Fernandez who fought Roberto Duran and Alexis Arguello 'I'
would have outboxed and out-slugged 'Boom' Boom'.

Though not regarded as a hard-hitter, Vilomar was strong and had a
good right hand lead.

I would take Vilomar on a good hard-fought decision.

red cobra · 03-14-2012, 10:26 PM

My gosh, Vilomar couldn't help but win this one.

MRBILL · 03-14-2012, 11:15 PM

Prime Fernandez of the middle to late 70's was too slick for Mancini... The Fernandez who fought and lost to Arguello in the rematch on network TV in the early 80's was a shell.....

MR.BILL

Danmann · 03-14-2012, 11:26 PM

Mancini, all the way. Fernandez ran from Duran, till he was caught. He also outboxed Arguelo, but he was not in best shape for that one. Villomar Fernandez is a favorite of mine from way back, but as a good fighter. I won't start putting him over guys who could beat him. I saw him beat a top fighter from California on George Foreman Vs Joe Frazier rematch card, it was co-main event.

Mancini was fast too, could close in quick, and Fernandez one problem was lack of a punch. He could not hold Mancini off at all if they fought. Mancini's slugger rep has some thinking he was slow maybe ? He wasn't.

Duodenum · 03-14-2012, 11:42 PM

Ray could only pull this off by immediately going to the body and staying there, a very difficult challenge with the way Vilomar moved.

In one of his early televised appearances, Boom Boom floored steel chinned Canadian veteran Al Ford in the fourth round with a body attack. Mancini then went berserk trying to finish Ford off. Unfortunately, his followup was confined exclusively to head hunting to absolutely no avail, and I was wondering if he'd punch himself out. Ray certainly demonstrated his youth and conditioning in that one, but not enough smarts to outscore a gifted operator like Fernandez (who made very, very few mistakes).

Mancini was able to shut out Ramirez by shrewdly moving in and out for his smartest win, but Jose had two left feet. The most skilled boxer Boom Boom defeated at the time the match took place was probably against a fading and nearly 30 year old Julio Valdez, who was never remotely in the same class as Fernandez on his best day.

Vilomar wouldn't likely be able to hurt Ray, but neither might he be able to miss any of his punches if he tried. This could be a major schooling of Mancini, certainly a clear UD for Fernandez in a best for best scenario.

ThinBlack · 03-15-2012, 03:50 PM

I think Boom Boom wins a close MD over Vilomar, he's going to keep pressing the action, and at some point will connect, and then dominate the guy.

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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez The Vilomar Fernandez who fought Roberto Duran and Alexis Arguello 'I' would have outboxed and out-slugged 'Boom' Boom'. Though not regarded as a hard-hitter, Vilomar was strong and had a good right hand lead. I would take Vilomar on a good hard-fought decision.
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red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,177 vCash: 1000	Re: Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez My gosh, Vilomar couldn't help but win this one.
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MRBILL P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 17,249 vCash: 1000	Re: Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez Prime Fernandez of the middle to late 70's was too slick for Mancini... The Fernandez who fought and lost to Arguello in the rematch on network TV in the early 80's was a shell..... MR.BILL
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03-14-2012, 11:26 PM	#5
Danmann Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,220 vCash: 500	Re: Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez Mancini, all the way. Fernandez ran from Duran, till he was caught. He also outboxed Arguelo, but he was not in best shape for that one. Villomar Fernandez is a favorite of mine from way back, but as a good fighter. I won't start putting him over guys who could beat him. I saw him beat a top fighter from California on George Foreman Vs Joe Frazier rematch card, it was co-main event. Mancini was fast too, could close in quick, and Fernandez one problem was lack of a punch. He could not hold Mancini off at all if they fought. Mancini's slugger rep has some thinking he was slow maybe ? He wasn't.
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03-14-2012, 11:42 PM	#6
Duodenum Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,700 vCash: 1000	Re: Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez Ray could only pull this off by immediately going to the body and staying there, a very difficult challenge with the way Vilomar moved. In one of his early televised appearances, Boom Boom floored steel chinned Canadian veteran Al Ford in the fourth round with a body attack. Mancini then went berserk trying to finish Ford off. Unfortunately, his followup was confined exclusively to head hunting to absolutely no avail, and I was wondering if he'd punch himself out. Ray certainly demonstrated his youth and conditioning in that one, but not enough smarts to outscore a gifted operator like Fernandez (who made very, very few mistakes). Mancini was able to shut out Ramirez by shrewdly moving in and out for his smartest win, but Jose had two left feet. The most skilled boxer Boom Boom defeated at the time the match took place was probably against a fading and nearly 30 year old Julio Valdez, who was never remotely in the same class as Fernandez on his best day. Vilomar wouldn't likely be able to hurt Ray, but neither might he be able to miss any of his punches if he tried. This could be a major schooling of Mancini, certainly a clear UD for Fernandez in a best for best scenario.
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03-15-2012, 03:50 PM	#7
ThinBlack Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,932 vCash: 1000	Re: Ray Mancini vs Vilomar Fernandez I think Boom Boom wins a close MD over Vilomar, he's going to keep pressing the action, and at some point will connect, and then dominate the guy.
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