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Old 03-16-2012, 07:24 AM   #16
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If anything Ortiz got over excited with how much success he was having and lost his head, he was walking through mayweathers shots for the most part and landing solid ones of his own. It would have been a very interesting fight over 12 rounds
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:26 AM   #17
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The only debate is whether Quittor Ortiz's glass heart or glass jaw got shattered first. My opinion is that he was getting dominated by a man 10 years older than him, he knew he was gonna lose his title, therefore he was looking for a way out. His glass heart got shattered, then Money May shattered his glass jaw.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:27 AM   #18
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Have you gave it some thought that his head bouncing off the canvas may have left him wobbled.
Because clearly it wasn't Floyd's two free sucker punches!!!


Didn't look as if he quit to me....over apologetic? Yes
Quit? No

Especially after having his best round of the fight when he began to employ their strategy according to his team!!!
Once again I have to educate people on these forums. Let's say ortiz was having his best round of the fight, you think that mayweather wouldn't have worked out what he was doing and figured him out. Floyd is the master at figuring out opponents, boxing is 90 percent mental and ortiz is a mental midgit.

Cotto could also have a good round or two in the may 5th fight but watch how quick floyd adapts to what his opponent is doing. Then it night night.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:38 AM   #19
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Once again I have to educate people on these forums. Let's say ortiz was having his best round of the fight, you think that mayweather wouldn't have worked out what he was doing and figured him out. Floyd is the master at figuring out opponents, boxing is 90 percent mental and ortiz is a mental midgit.

Cotto could also have a good round or two in the may 5th fight but watch how quick floyd adapts to what his opponent is doing. Then it night night.



The thread was not about mayweather or Cotto!!!

The question was " did Ortiz quit against Mayweather"?

Flamin Flomos can't seem to not avoid any opportunity to drop on their knees for Floyd!!!
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:40 AM   #20
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Have you gave it some thought that his head bouncing off the canvas may have left him wobbled.
Because clearly it wasn't Floyd's two free sucker punches!!!


Didn't look as if he quit to me....over apologetic? Yes
Quit? No

Especially after having his best round of the fight when he began to employ their strategy according to his team!!!
if that strategy was hitting floyd's elbows while taking clean right hands to the face over and over, yeah, they had that down cold
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:48 AM   #21
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if that strategy was hitting floyd's elbows while taking clean right hands to the face over and over, yeah, they had that down cold


Good point and I'm not saying Ortiz was overwhelmingly efficacious with the strategy they brought...
According to them that is how they were rolling and they seemed pleased with it!!!
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:53 AM   #22
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I think Ortiz mentally checked out of the fight after pulling the headbutt, and he wasn't exactly broken up after getting stopped so I'd qualify that as quitting. The guy didn't show the heart he had against Berto and looked like he was perfectly content to get his payday.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:26 AM   #23
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It's definately a plausible theory that he was looking for a way out of the fight. Him quitting against Maidana throws a bit of validity into such a theory.

The headbutt he threw was DQ worthy, had it actually made flush contact it could well have done some horrific damage. I think he might actually have been looking for a DQ as a pose to beating beaten like he was for the 3/4 rounds prior to the KO ,for another 8 rounds. Floyd came out faster and more aggressive than he usually does, and it might well have broken Ortiz' heart earlier than anticipated
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:31 AM   #24
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If anything Ortiz got over excited with how much success he was having and lost his head, he was walking through mayweathers shots for the most part and landing solid ones of his own. It would have been a very interesting fight over 12 rounds

he did the headbut because he was more or less having no success
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:33 AM   #25
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Yes
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:35 AM   #26
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Yeah he quit. He tried to intentionally find a way out once his eye started swelling. Why else would you jump up to butt someone? To damage them and hope that they let either let the fight go, or be disqualified. He wanted to cut or swell Floyd up and hope that he could further the damage. A fag for you.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:27 AM   #27
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yes, he was looking for a way out and trying to win by DQ but little did he know, those punches were legal so he ended up looking like a dumbass
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:31 AM   #28
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He was legitimately on queer street. You could see he had the glassy, where the **** am I look on his face. He wasn't knocled unconscious, but he had a concussion.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:33 AM   #29
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being punched when you're not expecting it, prepared for it or haven't seen it coming hurts 10x worse than a punch you saw coming, hence why ortiz was knocked the **** out. a dive? lol, no he was hit so hard that it robbed him of all his senses, that was plain as day if you watch it back.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:46 AM   #30
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He likely thought Floyd would be DQ'ed or the fight will be ruled an NC for Floyd throwing them sucker punches. Turned out the sucker punches were legal.
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