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Old 03-16-2012, 10:57 AM   #31
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Default Re: Did Ortiz QUIT during his fight with Floyd?

Glass in the mouth Syndrome. He did the same thing to Maidana when Miadana began to make the glass flex. "I don't need to be getting hit like this...I might retire" ~ Victor Ortease
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:10 AM   #32
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If anything Ortiz got over excited with how much success he was having and lost his head, he was walking through mayweathers shots for the most part and landing solid ones of his own. It would have been a very interesting fight over 12 rounds
He was not having any success,unless you count Floyd being on the ropes,he could not hit him and got frustrated to the point he needed to break Floyd's nose with his head..
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:43 PM   #33
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Cortez is a dumb referee and Ortiz is a dumb.... well, just dumb.
end of story
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Old 03-16-2012, 04:54 PM   #34
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I thought he could have gotten up before the 10 count, but it didn't look like he'd be in condition to continue taking shots from Floyd... Probably best he stayed down. Once the headbutts and hugs started, he lost his head in the ring..
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:12 PM   #35
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good opinions so far.

I dunno, if he can get up easily from the Berto KD which looked far more brutal imo, then he shouldve been able to get up from this..
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:13 PM   #36
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Or did he just lose his legs?

I actually wondered this the day of the fight.

He was clearly conscious, and crawled around the ring a bit while being counted out.


There could be different reasons for this-

Could he have felt too much guilt from the blatant headbutt (thus the superfluous amounts of hugging) and resigned himself to stay down out of shame?

Or possibly to take the heat off of him after the crowd had just been booing him?

Or maybe he thought it was possible to win by DQ?

Or maybe he was getting owned so bad that he thought this isnt as bad a way to lose?

Or maybe it was a FIX?? (hint hint aztecas)

Thoughts?
It looked worse.It looked like he threw the fight.

Floyd has enough money to pay him to lose.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:14 PM   #37
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The thread was not about mayweather or Cotto!!!

The question was " did Ortiz quit against Mayweather"?

Flamin Flomos can't seem to not avoid any opportunity to drop on their knees for Floyd!!!
**** you idiot i answered the question and brought in cotto at the end, don;t get butthurt fag your boy about to taking a beating get your tissues ready
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:15 PM   #38
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Glass in the mouth Syndrome. He did the same thing to Maidana when Miadana began to make the glass flex. "I don't need to be getting hit like this...I might retire" ~ Victor Ortease
I dont think Floyd is the type who would arrange for another fighter to throw the fight but the fight looked fixed.

Why was he hugging and hugging? What? They are that good of friends? it looked like he never really wanted to hurt his friend, like two brothers fighting and the little brother deciding to just stay down.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:17 PM   #39
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Poll added, vote up!
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:20 PM   #40
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I honestly think he could have gotten up but he is a mentally weak fighter, im not knocking him, im an Ortiz fan but he showed in the Maidana fight that he doesn't have the Margarito/Gatti/Ali type mentality where losing is not an option. If he was winning the fight and had Floyd in trouble and the got broken up like they did and the same cheap shots had happened Ortiz would have been up at 8 and made it through the round.

Just my opinion ofcourse .
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #41
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He likely thought Floyd would be DQ'ed or the fight will be ruled an NC for Floyd throwing them sucker punches. Turned out the sucker punches were legal.
Only a ***** would try to head butt his opponent and throw a punch afterwards.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:24 PM   #42
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He was not having any success,unless you count Floyd being on the ropes,he could not hit him and got frustrated to the point he needed to break Floyd's nose with his head..
Exactly. What ****ing fight were these guys watching in which Ortreez was having so much "success"? He was completely befuddled by Mayweather's defense and frustrated to the point where he tried to foul repeatedly (he clearly tried to butt Floyd at least twice before landing the one that he was deducted a point for).

To answer the thread question, yes, I do think he quit as soon as he resorted to fouling. Could he have gotten up? Maybe, but he had already lost the fight and mentally quit before Floyd even landed that combo.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:29 PM   #43
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Default Re: Did Ortiz QUIT during his fight with Floyd?

I think he could have gotten up from that. Especially considering his performance against Berto.

I felt he eventually, right after that 8 punch unanswered combo, knew he was in WAY over his head and exited stage left. I can't call the man any names because he absorbed a lot of punishment in that fight and wasn't able to land much in return. The outcome of that fight was written in stone.

So he "quit", but not really.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:47 PM   #44
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Its a different story when you get hit unexpectedly ..
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:00 PM   #45
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I think its a situation where he was overwhlemed in the ring acted like an idiot and wasn't really thinking, got knocked down and still not really conciously thinking kinda decided to stay down. It's like mugging someone without a gun, a lot of times people just kinda freeze and play the role of the victim and afterwards think **** I could have done this or that. it looked to me like he got beat up when he was down as opposed to knocked out. or maybe he just didn't think a guy as young as him deserved to get punched like that.
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