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Old 03-18-2012, 09:21 PM   #16
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thanks guys. I made this video and a couple of willie pep when i was researching this style of footwork. lots of lateral movement and direction changes, great style to watch.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:24 PM   #17
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thanks guys. I made this video and a couple of willie pep when i was researching this style of footwork. lots of lateral movement and direction changes, great style to watch.
Great job..I've enjoyed the hell out of this vid..Pastrano is one of my favorites..
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:29 PM   #18
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thanks guys. I made this video and a couple of willie pep when i was researching this style of footwork. lots of lateral movement and direction changes, great style to watch.
Top job Your video with Pepīs footwork is great too....
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:48 PM   #19
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Its just so learned. No mistakes, perfect control.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:56 AM   #20
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That's some olive oil slickness right there, guys. Unmistakable.

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Just take a few minutes to admire this tribute to dancing naster Willie Pastrano! Poetry in motion as they say so often, but this is the real thing..Taken from close but title winning bout with Harold johnson in June '63. You can clearly see how he influenced Ali...
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thanks guys. I made this video and a couple of willie pep when i was researching this style of footwork. lots of lateral movement and direction changes, great style to watch.
Thanks for making.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:23 AM   #21
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A lot of excessive movement, spending his energy for nothing. Good for him he only had to last 15 rounds once.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:51 AM   #22
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Pastrano had great footwork and even if Ali was to much for him in sparring it doesnīt matter, Ali is the greatest of all time and you have to be blind not seeing that Ali was influed by this, their moves are similar, Ali just took it a level higher.
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:51 PM   #23
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That was sort of my point. Comments earlier made it seem preposterous that Ali could hang with Pastrano in sparring but of course he could, Ali was significantly bigger even as a kid. And Pastrano looks breathtaking there. What made him so inconsistent.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:39 PM   #24
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[quote=LittleRed;12368368]That was sort of my point. Comments earlier made it seem preposterous that Ali could hang with Pastrano in sparring but of course he could, Ali was significantly bigger even as a kid. And Pastrano looks breathtaking there. What made him so inconsistent.[/quote]
He liked hangin with th' wimmens more than fighting. That contributed to his style too BTW, in that he had an almost pathological aversion to getting hit..he felt it ruined it for him as a womanizer.
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:44 PM   #25
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Well that explains a lot. Still he wasn't a total underachiever. He was light heavyweight champion of the world for a couple of years...
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:53 PM   #26
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Its just so learned. No mistakes, perfect control.
It's very nice, but too energy consuming, I'd say. You have to rely on great legs to get away with that.

It's a nice watch, but if I was showing someone perfect defensive footwork the Marquez-Pac fights would win out over Pastrano-Johnson every time.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:30 PM   #27
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I wouldn't show either.Marquez worked well with what he had footwork-wise, but it was more his excellent counterpunching that kept Pac at bay.I'd show many different boxer-punchers before Marquez for defensive foot positioning.Unless maybe it's for showing someone doing well with the basics, without great technique or footspeed.the 2nd and especially 3rd fights would be as good as any for that.

True that Pastrano's style needs strong physical attributes though.He's not that much more idea for a young amatuer\pro to studyl than the likes of Ali, Buchanan, Rodriguez or Chang in terms of intuitive movers.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:32 PM   #28
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I wouldn't show either.Marquez worked well with what he had footwork-wise, but it was more his excellent counterpunching that kept Pac at bay.I'd show many different boxer-punchers before Marquez for defensive foot positioning.Unless maybe it's for showing someone doing well with the basics, without great technique or footspeed.the 2nd and especially 3rd fights would be as good as any for that.
Don't agree with that at all. The technique of his footwork in those fights is close to perfect and a very important reason as to why his counter punching is so effective in the first place.
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