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Old 03-19-2012, 07:36 AM   #31
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Default Re: Potential blueprints Floyd will use to combat Cotto---

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Jab,run, jab, elbow, hold ...repeat
elbow? you sound like ortiz.... which btw he never used in that fight

i can see floyd jabbing cotto to the body really well in this fight I DONT KNOW WHY. but i can just picture it
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:47 PM   #32
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I think he should use the one that Mosley did, at least to a certain extent, but do it better.

He needs to keep the fight in the center of the ring, make Cotto miss and burn energy, and don't get into a habit of following him.

If Floyd can manage to keep himself from going after Cotto early, he can potentially tire Cotto out, and start applying more pressure from the apex of the ring, onward, anticipating the movement of his opponent.

He has to be careful though because unlike, the version of Cotto that fought Shane, this one has a right hand and a new bag of tricks as well as improvements in his previous game.

Cotto deserves respect, but Mayweather will beat him by keeping the fight in the center of the ring and eventually applying, slow, educated pressure, and possibly gunning for a KO.

Styles make fights, and this is possibly a tougher test for Mayweather than for Pacquaio due to the style implications.

As for Cotto, he needs Floyd to get aggressive and follow him around the ring. If Mayweather does play it smart, and keep it in the center of the ring, Cotto must pressure his way in, and attack Mayweather in ways that will back him into a punch.

In this fight, we will see that Mayweather still has his legs as he will use them early to circle away from Cotto's attacks.

Mayweather has to box Cotto to beat Cotto.


We won't see that Mayweather again. From now on, he's only going to fight one way, and that's coming forward. He'll won't use his legs again to fight backing up.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:53 PM   #33
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We won't see that Mayweather again. From now on, he's only going to fight one way, and that's coming forward. He'll won't use his legs again to fight backing up.
Well, good thing his nickname is no longer "Pretty" then.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:21 PM   #34
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Punches to watch out for this in fight:

*Jab to the body

*Right uppercut

Cotto(e)'s stance leaves him open for that stab down under, and he's always been one to eat uppercut sandwiches. Be on the lookout for a 1 down and ripping 2 up top.

Floyd comes forward and stops Cotto(e)
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:23 PM   #35
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Punches to watch out for this in fight:

*Jab to the body

*Right uppercut

Cotto(e)'s stance leaves him open for that stab down under, and he's always been one to eat uppercut sandwiches.

Floyd comes forward and stops Cotto(e)
I think we'll see very few uppercuts. replace that with a right hand lead

I expect a high guard, leading with the jab to the body and a straight right, and very little else
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:30 PM   #36
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I think we'll see very few uppercuts. replace that with a right hand lead

I expect a high guard, leading with the jab to the body and a straight right, and very little else
He caught Ortiz 2-3 times with the upper.

Right hand is a given. I don't mention it because Floyd always makes it connect whether they're particularly open for it or not.

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Do you think Cotto(e) will attempt his once famous left hook to the body? Floyd uses his right elbow as a shield and timing mechanism for setting off counter right uppers if they try to hook downstairs. We constantly see him drilling this maneuver with Unca Roger on the mitts.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:38 PM   #37
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Cotto is more mobile then Mosley. Floyd will fight him in his cross guard, with heavy emphasis on the jab to upset Cotto's rhythm like he did Marquez. He wont use the high guard until he goes for the KO in the late rounds. Pure boxer puncher in this fight. Suddenly Mayweather's legs will "Magically" return.

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Old 03-20-2012, 12:09 AM   #38
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Cotto is more mobile then Mosley. Floyd will fight him in his cross guard, with heavy emphasis on the jab to upset Cotto's rhythm like he did Marquez. He wont use the high guard until he goes for the KO in the late rounds. Pure boxer puncher in this fight. Suddenly Mayweather's legs will "Magically" return.
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:08 AM   #39
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This new Cotto has a jab... the old Cotto had a jab.... Unless cotto shows his olskool relentless pressure, then that is what May needs to look for... The man has lost his ferocity which is the only reason I gave him a shot 5 years ago...
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:16 AM   #40
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Cotto will try and establish his jab...but Floyd with his incredible reach, speed, and timing is going to eat Cotto alive with pull counters.

When that jab doesn't work to allow him to work his way into range...he will be confused and hesitant...checkmate Floyd...a beatdown is comming.
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Old 03-20-2012, 04:43 AM   #41
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Mayweather will start off cautious and measured. Cotto will also be reluctant to engage, but at some point early on will allow the crowd to gas him up, and will elicit some oohs and ahhs not only from the crowd, but from the HBO crew via some eye catching, but ineffective flurries. Then Mayweather will realize how easy Cotto is to hit, and he will begin hitting him. Over and over and over, and Cotto will be in full retreat mode by round 5. The aggressive side of Mayweather will emerge, and he will batter Cotto around the ring until the fight is stopped in the 10th.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:59 AM   #42
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He caught Ortiz 2-3 times with the upper.

Right hand is a given. I don't mention it because Floyd always makes it connect whether they're particularly open for it or not.

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Do you think Cotto(e) will attempt his once famous left hook to the body? Floyd uses his right elbow as a shield and timing mechanism for setting off counter right uppers if they try to hook downstairs. We constantly see him drilling this maneuver with Unca Roger on the mitts.
Maybe once or twice, but all Floyd needs to do is transition into his sholder roll guard and crack Cotto with a counter right
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:12 AM   #43
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We won't see that Mayweather again. From now on, he's only going to fight one way, and that's coming forward. He'll won't use his legs again to fight backing up.
This..........How many 147-154 pounders you see bouncing on their feet dancing for a full 12 rounds, that strategy is only conducive to fighting at the lower weights, at the bigger weights of 147 and 154 it's a waste of energy, and could potentially get yourself in trouble implementing that style, ala Cotto fading in the later rounds, and Pacquiao with leg cramps, Floyd is a tactician to the fullest degree, please believe he knew he had to change, and with him growing into a solid ww has full confidence doing so, expect him to come forward, and send Cotto retreating early to send a message, and break his confidence early

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Old 03-20-2012, 09:16 AM   #44
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This..........How many 147-154 pounders you see bouncing on their feet dancing for a full 12 rounds, that strategy is only conducive to fighting at the lower weights, at the bigger weights of 147 and 154 it's a waste of energy, and could potentially get yourself in trouble implementing that style, ala Cotto fading in the later rounds, and Pacquiao with leg cramps.
It did fit perfectly for someone like Baldomir, who looked like he was fighting under water, but I agree; Mayweather should be in the pocket, or walking forward
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:12 AM   #45
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