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Old 03-20-2012, 09:05 PM   #31
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Nice fairy tale bro.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:21 PM   #32
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While ducking has (of course) always existed, I'd say it exploded when the "alphabet soup" list of governing bodies came into being.

In the old WBC-only days, you were either the champ or you weren't. Today, ~10 guys have a "champ" belt in each division, which helps the promoters push them & draw casual fans. Why take a chance fighting someone really good, when you're already "champ?"
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:29 PM   #33
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Nice fairy tale bro.
you should get back on chesscube man
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:31 PM   #34
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Yep, boxing is a business. They weigh the reward against the risk.

Sugar Ray Robinson didn't want to fight Charley Burley.

Jack Johnson didn't want to fight other Duquans.

People don't fight as frequently today, so it's harder to "fight everyone".

Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn't want to fight Manny Pacquiao.

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Old 03-20-2012, 10:33 PM   #35
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Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn't want to fight Manny Pacquiao.

For Gods Sakes....
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:39 PM   #36
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For Gods Sakes....
I gave a prime example. One that is relevant to the landscape of the sport at this precise moment.

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Old 03-20-2012, 10:42 PM   #37
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I'm relatively new to boxing (first started really paying attention around mid-to-late Roy Jones Jr prime, if that makes any sense lol).

I can remember RJJ 'ducking' certain fighters. So basically my earliest memories of being a 'hard-core' boxing fan, there is always 'ducking' or atleast 'avoiding' going on.

My question is, when did that kind of thing really start? Has it always happened? Is it something that just started with RJJ lol? Because I know they didn't atleast in the 80's.... atleast with Duran/Hearns/Leonard/Hagler.

And after thinking about it a little more before I clicked 'Submit', people say Leonard kind of ducked Hagler, then came out of retirement to fight him when he thought he could beat him (if thats true or not, who knows).

Sparta ducked the Persians at Marathon. ****ing joke show pussies were all talk
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:19 PM   #38
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It not about ducking it is money, risk reward
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:35 PM   #39
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John L. Sullivan ducked every black fighter in existence at the time, so did other white HW champs till Tommy Burns finally gave Johnson a shot (albeit after giving him the runaround) and got his azz whooped

Jack Johnson ducked the Langford rematch

2 of the earliest duckings

ducking has been there as long as the sport has


I did make a thread on earliest cherrypicking which turned out interesting
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:32 AM   #40
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since the bareknuckle days! In the early 1700's there's stories of fighters avoiding certain styles and certain fighters who weren't popular enough...I bet if you dug hard enough you'd find evidence of ducking as far back as the greeks in 500 BC although some of those ****ers were forced to fight to the death with spiiked handwraps so maybe not, they proly had to fight who they were told but I bet the matchmakers ducked and maneuvered their charges away from bad style match ups etc...
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:44 AM   #41
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probably since the beginning of the sport

you get a champ people like and can expand the popularity so you dont put him in tough in every title fight maybe avoid the best guy

i mean for the longest time none of the champs would defend their title vs blacks and probably other minorities

some of this is just guessing and talking from my ass but its probably been done forever
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:29 AM   #42
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Ducking started becoming prominent way back when PPV started to make big dollars. Late 80s. The image of a boxer became more important than the fights he fought. Undefeated records, even if they are against ****py opponents, makes a boxer more marketable than someone who takes risks and fights the best and loses some fights. It's sad.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:38 AM   #43
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Floyd Mayweather Jr. didn't want to fight Manny Pacquiao.

tell emmanuel to stop takin em steroids
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:57 AM   #44
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Since the Devil ducked God and tried to make a side deal with Jesus.
But now the devil is more popular than ever thanks to his new promoter.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
His promoter is also the reason that Armageddon is not happening.
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Void has made ducking an art, a very disgusting art...............
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