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Old 03-03-2011, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default Ali Wins Suit, Doesn't Have To Fight Bobick

May 1977

Muhammad Ali doesn't have to fight Duane Bobick in his next
Heavyweight Championship title defense, according to Chicago U.S.
District Court Judge, John Powers Crowley.

In a 12-Page opinion, Judge Crowley said Muhammad Ali, "lacked the
capacity to enter into a contract without the approval of Herbert Muhammad."

Bobick's attorneys have filed a $4,000,000 lawsuit, saying Ali had signed a contract to fight Duane Bobick next,
but Ali then signed to fight another opponent.

He first signed to fight Italy's 'Rocky' Lorenzo Zanon, but that fight was
cancelled, and he later agreed to fight Alfredo Evangilista.

It appears that Muhammad Ali has been signing 'fight contracts' all over
the place, for non-refundable deposits. Then opts out, using the
theme, that he's not capable of understanding the outline of the contract without an advisor or manager.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ali Wins Suit, Doesn't Have To Fight Bobick

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May 1977

Muhammad Ali doesn't have to fight Duane Bobick in his next
Heavyweight Championship title defense, according to Chicago U.S.
District Court Judge, John Powers Crowley.

In a 12-Page opinion, Judge Crowley said Muhammad Ali, "lacked the
capacity to enter into a contract without the approval of Herbert Muhammad."

Bobick's attorneys have filed a $4,000,000 lawsuit, saying Ali had signed a contract to fight Duane Bobick next,
but Ali then signed to fight another opponent.

He first signed to fight Italy's 'Rocky' Lorenzo Zanon, but that fight was
cancelled, and he later agreed to fight Alfredo Evangilista.

It appears that Muhammad Ali has been signing 'fight contracts' all over
the place, for non-refundable deposits. Then opts out, using the
theme, that he's not capable of understanding the outline of the contract without an advisor or manager.
Bobick would n't have stood a chance anyhow,imo. Even against the 1977 shopworn version of Muhammad.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ali Wins Suit, Doesn't Have To Fight Bobick

That's a shitty thing to do.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:13 PM   #4
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Muhammad Ali had signed a contract in March 1977 to fight Lorenzo Zanon in
May 1977.

'Rocky Lorenzo Zanon was 18-2-1, and had just upset #6 WBA Heavyweight
Alfredo Evangilista (14-0-1).
Lorenzo Zanon (un-ranked) at the time in defeating Evangilista, got moved up to
#8 in the WBA Rankings.

Ali insiders, decided to opt out in fighting Lorenzo Zanon, as they considered him too slick.
They cancelled the contract, and took Alfredo Evangilista instead, who was regarded as a
softer opponent, though still ranked #10 by the WBA.

How good was Alfredo. Well, in his bout with Lorenzo Zanon, he won only 'one' round,
in losing a 'one-sided' 8-Round Decision in Espana.
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thats ****in' smart.
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Old 03-03-2011, 02:04 PM   #6
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Bobick would n't have stood a chance anyhow,imo. Even against the 1977 shopworn version of Muhammad.
I think he would have been a live underdog.
Ali had lost his ability to knock anyone out, and was to lose to a 6-0-1 Leon Spinks soon after.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:18 PM   #7
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After 'hiding' from Duane Bobick, and taking on Alfredo Evangilista in May 1977.

The Ali Team, scouted one Gerrie Coetzee in South Africa, for a possible late-1977
or early-1978 bout.

And Domingo D'Elia as a potential opponent too, in Argentina.

If only Eddie Machen were alive, they could have fought him in New Zealand.

As Ali said, anybody but Ken Norton or Jimmy Young.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:24 PM   #8
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How about that Mike Schutte Duce?
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How about that Mike Schutte Duce?
Mike Schutte was in that group,,,,,,

Don't forget about me,,,,,,,Bernd August,

And the Japan Heavyweight,,,,,,,'Killer' Koji Kabe (6' 0' 185 lbs.)
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:44 PM   #10
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Muhammad Ali had signed a contract in March 1977 to fight Lorenzo Zanon in
May 1977.

'Rocky Lorenzo Zanon was 18-2-1, and had just upset #6 WBA Heavyweight
Alfredo Evangilista (14-0-1).
Lorenzo Zanon (un-ranked) at the time in defeating Evangilista, got moved up to
#8 in the WBA Rankings.

Ali insiders, decided to opt out in fighting Lorenzo Zanon, as they considered him too slick.
They cancelled the contract, and took Alfredo Evangilista instead, who was regarded as a
softer opponent, though still ranked #10 by the WBA.

How good was Alfredo. Well, in his bout with Lorenzo Zanon, he won only 'one' round,
in losing a 'one-sided' 8-Round Decision in Espana.
thanks for this...makes the question i was posing in another thread here a bit clearer
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:47 PM   #11
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Bernd lost his chance when he was destroyed by Richard Dunn didn't he?

I can't believe Bepi Ros was never considered, maybe he would have been had he beat Schutte and August.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:19 AM   #12
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More 'Bad Luck' for Duane Bobick,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Il Duce View Post
May 1977

Muhammad Ali doesn't have to fight Duane Bobick in his next
Heavyweight Championship title defense, according to Chicago U.S.
District Court Judge, John Powers Crowley.

In a 12-Page opinion, Judge Crowley said Muhammad Ali, "lacked the
capacity to enter into a contract without the approval of Herbert Muhammad."

Bobick's attorneys have filed a $4,000,000 lawsuit, saying Ali had signed a contract to fight Duane Bobick next,
but Ali then signed to fight another opponent.

He first signed to fight Italy's 'Rocky' Lorenzo Zanon, but that fight was
cancelled, and he later agreed to fight Alfredo Evangilista.

It appears that Muhammad Ali has been signing 'fight contracts' all over
the place, for non-refundable deposits. Then opts out, using the
theme, that he's not capable of understanding the outline of the contract without an advisor or manager.
Quote:
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Muhammad Ali had signed a contract in March 1977 to fight Lorenzo Zanon in
May 1977.

'Rocky Lorenzo Zanon was 18-2-1, and had just upset #6 WBA Heavyweight
Alfredo Evangilista (14-0-1).
Lorenzo Zanon (un-ranked) at the time in defeating Evangilista, got moved up to
#8 in the WBA Rankings.

Ali insiders, decided to opt out in fighting Lorenzo Zanon, as they considered him too slick.
They cancelled the contract, and took Alfredo Evangilista instead, who was regarded as a
softer opponent, though still ranked #10 by the WBA.

How good was Alfredo. Well, in his bout with Lorenzo Zanon, he won only 'one' round,
in losing a 'one-sided' 8-Round Decision in Espana.
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After 'hiding' from Duane Bobick, and taking on Alfredo Evangilista in May 1977.

The Ali Team, scouted one Gerrie Coetzee in South Africa, for a possible late-1977
or early-1978 bout.

And Domingo D'Elia as a potential opponent too, in Argentina.

If only Eddie Machen were alive, they could have fought him in New Zealand.

As Ali said, anybody but Ken Norton or Jimmy Young.
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Mike Schutte was in that group,,,,,,

Don't forget about me,,,,,,,Bernd August,

And the Japan Heavyweight,,,,,,,'Killer' Koji Kabe (6' 0' 185 lbs.)
great thread as usual . Duce digs all d gold 4 us . 1 of d must read posters here , and a top 5 (at worst) contributor . On d league of hhascup and even more than Bukkake .
And if Duce is n Ali hater start considering Ali a bigger Ali hater , because Duce thinks Ali would have beaten Bobick , while Ali , his team , Don King and myself disagree/d .
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:31 PM   #14
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Ali would have eventually stunned Bobick ala lyle, and Duane predictably would freeze on the spot, and Ali would have flurried until the ref stopped it...and he may have even sent Bobick down.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:38 PM   #15
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Ali would have eventually stunned Bobick ala lyle, and Duane predictably would freeze on the spot, and Ali would have flurried until the ref stopped it...and he may have even sent Bobick down.
That's about the size of it.
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