Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner

Senor Pepe' · 04-01-2012, 12:51 PM

1972,

A 37 year-old Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner a 22 year-old up-n-comer.

Would the former 2-time champion have enough skills and stamina
to out-last the European new star over 12-Rounds.

In 1972, Patterson still proved he was no easy walk-over, and he was
in excellent shape at 190 lbs.

Wins over Oscar Bonavena and Pedro Agosto in 1972, did prove that Patterson
was worthy of a Top 10 Wolrd Ranking.

red cobra · 04-02-2012, 11:08 AM

An interesting matchup..don't know why it never happened. i think Floyd would have won a decision over Joe. A late knockdown scored by Floyd would be the difference, though I'm sure that Bugner would have given him problems and would have shaken him up a few times. i just think Floyd's handspeed and ability to crack would have edged the best Bugner had.

Stevie G · 04-02-2012, 11:38 AM

In 1972 Floyd would sneak it.

Guyfawkes · 04-02-2012, 11:44 AM

I think its a hard fight with both men having to give their bests, but i think Floyds skill wins him the decison

TBooze · 04-02-2012, 11:48 AM

Bugner would just be glad to be in a big fight, and as long as he went the distance he would not care about the result... Sadly he never really did.

It would not of crossed Bugner's mind, that he actually could of won the fight if fully focused.

MMJoe · 04-02-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

1972,

A 37 year-old Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner a 22 year-old up-n-comer.

Would the former 2-time champion have enough skills and stamina
to out-last the European new star over 12-Rounds.

In 1972, Patterson still proved he was no easy walk-over, and he was
in excellent shape at 190 lbs.

Wins over Oscar Bonavena and Pedro Agosto in 1972, did prove that Patterson
was worthy of a Top 10 Wolrd Ranking.

Did Joe Bugner ever win a fight when he stepped up? I know he compiled a few euro titles, but that is something else. Every big name beat him, even an over the hill Ron Lyle.

Senor Pepe' · 04-02-2012, 11:51 AM

Good calls so far,

In 1972, Floyd was still regarded as a Top 5 fighter by Ring Magazine.

As for Jozsef Bugner, he had just cracked the Top 10.

Joe's height would have presented a bit of a problem for Floyd, but
he was effective in modifying his style to overcome some obstacles.

I think Floyd's superior skills would have been enough for him to earn a
12-Round decision over Bugner, who was still having problems with
his non-aggressive style.

he grant · 04-02-2012, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Good calls so far,

In 1972, Floyd was still regarded as a Top 5 fighter by Ring Magazine.

As for Jozsef Bugner, he still hadn't cracked the Top 10 yet.

Joe's height would have presented a bit of a problem for Floyd, but
he was effective in modifying his style to overcome some obstacles.

I think Floyd's superior skills would have been enough to earn him a
12-Round decision over Bugner, who was still having problems with
his non-aggressive style.

Si' Senor !

biglads · 04-02-2012, 02:36 PM

Joe never let his hands go. Against Floyd that's a big problem.

Patterson UD (9-3)

JWSoats · 04-02-2012, 03:57 PM

The previous year, Joe Bugner barely won a very unpopular decision against Henry Cooper. In 1972 I believe Floyd Patterson had enough left to win a comfortable decision over Bugner.

jowcol · 04-05-2012, 07:50 PM

Obviously I'm a big Floyd fan, my childhood hero. There was no reason they would have fought in 72; the one poster said "why did this not happen?" Easy, Floyd was on the downside of his career and wanted nothing more than a rematch with Ali. To do that, he had to score a win over a top contender (Oscar).
To be honest, a 72 Bugner may have jabbed and hugged his way to a decision over a 37 yr. old Floyd but, as fighters, only one merits HOF consideration.

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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,710 vCash: 500	Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner 1972, A 37 year-old Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner a 22 year-old up-n-comer. Would the former 2-time champion have enough skills and stamina to out-last the European new star over 12-Rounds. In 1972, Patterson still proved he was no easy walk-over, and he was in excellent shape at 190 lbs. Wins over Oscar Bonavena and Pedro Agosto in 1972, did prove that Patterson was worthy of a Top 10 Wolrd Ranking.
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red cobra Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 12,960 vCash: 1000	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner An interesting matchup..don't know why it never happened. i think Floyd would have won a decision over Joe. A late knockdown scored by Floyd would be the difference, though I'm sure that Bugner would have given him problems and would have shaken him up a few times. i just think Floyd's handspeed and ability to crack would have edged the best Bugner had.
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Stevie G Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London,England Posts: 8,396 vCash: 1000	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner In 1972 Floyd would sneak it.
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Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: where am i??? I dont know Posts: 724 vCash: 75	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner I think its a hard fight with both men having to give their bests, but i think Floyds skill wins him the decison
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TBooze Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South of London Posts: 9,790 vCash: 0	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner Bugner would just be glad to be in a big fight, and as long as he went the distance he would not care about the result... Sadly he never really did. It would not of crossed Bugner's mind, that he actually could of won the fight if fully focused.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,710 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner Good calls so far, In 1972, Floyd was still regarded as a Top 5 fighter by Ring Magazine. As for Jozsef Bugner, he had just cracked the Top 10. Joe's height would have presented a bit of a problem for Floyd, but he was effective in modifying his style to overcome some obstacles. I think Floyd's superior skills would have been enough for him to earn a 12-Round decision over Bugner, who was still having problems with his non-aggressive style. Last edited by Senor Pepe'; 04-02-2012 at 01:56 PM.
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biglads Climbing the WBO Rankings ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Down Micky's Posts: 869 vCash: 6571	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner Joe never let his hands go. Against Floyd that's a big problem. Patterson UD (9-3)
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JWSoats Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 286 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner The previous year, Joe Bugner barely won a very unpopular decision against Henry Cooper. In 1972 I believe Floyd Patterson had enough left to win a comfortable decision over Bugner.
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jowcol Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 769 vCash: 1000	Re: Floyd Patterson vs. Joe Bugner Obviously I'm a big Floyd fan, my childhood hero. There was no reason they would have fought in 72; the one poster said "why did this not happen?" Easy, Floyd was on the downside of his career and wanted nothing more than a rematch with Ali. To do that, he had to score a win over a top contender (Oscar). To be honest, a 72 Bugner may have jabbed and hugged his way to a decision over a 37 yr. old Floyd but, as fighters, only one merits HOF consideration.
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