Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

Canibus81 · 04-03-2012, 05:39 PM

I'm only making this thread because I seen a debate in the Lennox Lewis/Ali thread that was made by another poster and one of the posters feels that Ali wouldn't be a match for Wladimir Klitschko and I know he believes it(as most Wladimir fans believe it) because of that David Haye fight.

Well Ali is a lot better than Haye. His jab was better, his workrate was better, his footwrk was better, his heart was better, his chin was better, and his ring IQ was better. BTW, Ali by UD over Wladimir Klitschko.

Well boxing fans, who do you think would win if these 2 fought, both of them at their best?

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Canibus81 · 04-03-2012, 05:42 PM

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Arcane · 04-03-2012, 05:45 PM

Your hand can't grab what your fists can't jab, float like a butteryfly, sting like a bee!

Auracle21 · 04-03-2012, 05:48 PM

pretty sure parkinsons ali could steal beat a klitchko

1_man_army · 04-03-2012, 05:51 PM

I don't see Ali getting a stoppage but I see a 9-3 sort of UD for Ali.

ron u.k. · 04-03-2012, 05:52 PM

The pre '67 Ali wins an emphatic decision possibly stopping Wlad late.Wlad would be out jabbed and out speeded and basically befuddled.
Post '70 Wlad has a chance against a slowed down and older Ali,however I don't believe he would have enough,Ali has more skill,more savvy,more heart,more guts and can dig deeper. Wlad is simply not good enough to beat Ali.

Guyfawkes · 04-03-2012, 05:59 PM

Prime for Prime , Ali would absolutely school Wlads and stop him around the 10th or 11th round

Furey · 04-03-2012, 06:00 PM

Ali stops him.

Alien · 04-03-2012, 06:03 PM

Wlad easily.

He beat Sam Peter and Chris Byrd which means he's the best ever.

diamondDave · 04-03-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auracle21

pretty sure parkinsons ali could steal beat a klitchko

"steal beat a klitchko" nice choice of words. You seem like an intelligent person, whose opinion I should value....NOT!

DrMo · 04-03-2012, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcane

Your hand can't grab what your fists can't jab, float like a butteryfly, sting like a bee!

Great post

FilipMNE · 04-03-2012, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcane

Your hand can't grab what your fists can't jab, float like a butteryfly, sting like a bee!

exocet76 · 04-03-2012, 06:14 PM

Ali would clown Vlad before they got in the ring, don't even talk about boxing Vlad would be done TKO6 (not trying to be funny Klitlickers)
Vlad has very limited skills sets and would be schooled on levels not seen before.
Vlad is used to punching stationary objects not targets that move, and the fact Ali had balls and a will to win and could take a punch, something Vlad has not got.

This is not even close, the master pawns the clown.

/end thread.

PityTheFool · 04-03-2012, 06:20 PM

Wlad wouldn't even get a shot.
Like comparing Ray Robinson at his best v Matthew Hatton at his best.

JoeAverage · 04-03-2012, 06:23 PM

It would not be easy, because skillwise they are not so far apart.

But I think Ali could take Wlad into too deep water most of the times (if they fought several times)... and Wlad is not a born fighter (mentally).

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The fight could go either way	15	3.46%
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04-03-2012, 05:39 PM	#1
Canibus81 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,851 vCash: 1000	Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? I'm only making this thread because I seen a debate in the Lennox Lewis/Ali thread that was made by another poster and one of the posters feels that Ali wouldn't be a match for Wladimir Klitschko and I know he believes it(as most Wladimir fans believe it) because of that David Haye fight. Well Ali is a lot better than Haye. His jab was better, his workrate was better, his footwrk was better, his heart was better, his chin was better, and his ring IQ was better. BTW, Ali by UD over Wladimir Klitschko. Well boxing fans, who do you think would win if these 2 fought, both of them at their best? [ame]*********.youtube.com/watch?v=oJUzl0aFHZw[/ame] [ame]*******.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWynvBLJ4I[/ame] [ame]*******.youtube.com/watch?v=HXxGRTQYbe0&feature=relmfu[/ame] [ame]*********.youtube.com/watch?v=kOjrfL3Hu_8[/ame]
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04-03-2012, 05:42 PM	#2
Canibus81 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,851 vCash: 1000	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? [ame]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=elkj-nroI40[/ame]
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04-03-2012, 05:45 PM	#3
Arcane One More Time East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,636 vCash: 357	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? Your hand can't grab what your fists can't jab, float like a butteryfly, sting like a bee!
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Auracle21 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,266 vCash: 14874	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? pretty sure parkinsons ali could steal beat a klitchko
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1_man_army The Knockout King ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 975 vCash: 438	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? I don't see Ali getting a stoppage but I see a 9-3 sort of UD for Ali.
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ron u.k. Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 2,466 vCash: 1000	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? The pre '67 Ali wins an emphatic decision possibly stopping Wlad late.Wlad would be out jabbed and out speeded and basically befuddled. Post '70 Wlad has a chance against a slowed down and older Ali,however I don't believe he would have enough,Ali has more skill,more savvy,more heart,more guts and can dig deeper. Wlad is simply not good enough to beat Ali.
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04-03-2012, 05:59 PM	#7
Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: where am i??? I dont know Posts: 724 vCash: 75	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? Prime for Prime , Ali would absolutely school Wlads and stop him around the 10th or 11th round
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Furey EST & REG 2009 ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: England Posts: 1,781 vCash: 1000	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? Ali stops him.
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Alien Chin Scholar ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,223 vCash: 500	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? Wlad easily. He beat Sam Peter and Chris Byrd which means he's the best ever.
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04-03-2012, 06:14 PM	#13
exocet76 Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 340 vCash: 75	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? Ali would clown Vlad before they got in the ring, don't even talk about boxing Vlad would be done TKO6 (not trying to be funny Klitlickers) Vlad has very limited skills sets and would be schooled on levels not seen before. Vlad is used to punching stationary objects not targets that move, and the fact Ali had balls and a will to win and could take a punch, something Vlad has not got. This is not even close, the master pawns the clown. /end thread.
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04-03-2012, 06:20 PM	#14
PityTheFool Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Poorer place without Johnny Tapia Posts: 9,395 vCash: 75	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? Wlad wouldn't even get a shot. Like comparing Ray Robinson at his best v Matthew Hatton at his best.
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04-03-2012, 06:23 PM	#15
JoeAverage Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,079 vCash: 1000	Re: Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins? It would not be easy, because skillwise they are not so far apart. But I think Ali could take Wlad into too deep water most of the times (if they fought several times)... and Wlad is not a born fighter (mentally).
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