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View Poll Results: Muhammad Ali vs. Wladimir Klitschko, 15 rds, prime vs. prime, who wins?
Ali stops Wladimir 394 45.55%
Ali by decision 198 22.89%
Wladimir stops Ali 146 16.88%
Waldimir by decision 91 10.52%
The fight could go either way 36 4.16%
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:25 PM   #151
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Liston hit harder than Wlad. Shavers hit harder than Wlad. Williams hit harder, or at least just as hard and so did Lyle.

Had I noticed this was Wlad we're talking about and not Vitaly, I would have picked Ali by KO because Wlad would fall apart vs. Ali, he wouldn't be able to take getting hit and not being able to hit back, he'd start chasing, gas out and get knocked the **** out. Vitali would keep his head but wouldn't land anything significant, Ali would move constantly and win comfortably on points.
Now how on earth do you know who hit the hardest? There is no measuring device and the accuracy of the punches.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:31 PM   #152
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He shouldn't even had to show you a highlight video, you should already this stuff if you know boxing like the way your talking.
Why? I simply made an observation from videos you posted yourself. In terms of performence I think Haye would have done better against Ali than what Liston did in that fight. Just look how Haye makes sure to move in and out of distance when he tries to be offensive, while Liston simply struggles to stay close to Ali. I dont find anything unethical in using my eyes.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:33 PM   #153
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Why? I simply made an observation from videos you posted yourself. In terms of performence I think Haye would have done better against Ali than what Liston did in that fight. Just look how Haye makes sure to move in and out of distance when he tries to be offensive, while Liston simply struggles to stay close to Ali. I dont find anything unethical in using my eyes.

You didn't say anything about Haye, you were comparing Samuel Peter to Liston.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:35 PM   #154
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What the ****? Ali was 6'3 and 200lbs+. That's a heavyweight.
Not today and Ali at his biggest and fattest was like 220 but most of the time 209 or so Cruiser weight is how much? Ali was big for the time.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:39 PM   #155
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You didn't say anything about Haye, you were comparing Samuel Peter to Liston.
Actually my computer crashed when I posted it, which has never happened before When even my laptop cant stomach my posts I should perhaps reconsider.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:41 PM   #156
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Actually my computer crashed when I posted it, which has never happened before When even my laptop cant stomach my posts I should perhaps reconsider.
Oh Ok.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:43 PM   #157
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I'm ****ing ****ing myself laughing at this one!!

Liston was one of the greatest heavyweights ever.

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My God you're a ****ing IDIOT.
Liston learned to fight in prison did win the golden glove championship of Chicago Hit hard was a lot biger than people he fought Kimbo slice learned to fight in Miami that is like prison Perhaps Liston was a little better than Kimbo but not much. but he mayhave got knocked out.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:47 PM   #158
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Ali struggled against defensive boxers - Jones, Norton, Young. He was never that good at pressuring opponents nor at blocking the punches. Ali kept his right hand low and that left him open to counter jabs and left hooks. That would cost Ali dearly against fast HW with size and reach advantage like Wlad. Wlad would outjab Ali to a comfortable UD.
Good post.

Ali was too susceptible to jabs and left hooks.

Ali was knocked down, badly hurt and almost KO'd (should've been a KO) by a slow weak left hook from 180 lb bum Cooper

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Old 04-04-2012, 08:49 PM   #159
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The ridiculously overrated Ali would get KTFO by Wlad's steelhammer left hook.


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The ridiculously overrated Ali would get KTFO by Wlad's steelhammer left hook.


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Who can beat Wlad IYO?
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Ali is so overrated it's disgusting.
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Liston learned to fight in prison did win the golden glove championship of Chicago Hit hard was a lot biger than people he fought Kimbo slice learned to fight in Miami that is like prison Perhaps Liston was a little better than Kimbo but not much. but he mayhave got knocked out.

How old are you man? And when did you start watching boxing?
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:02 PM   #163
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I read all the posts and can only conclude that you are all so befuddled about the K bros dominance that you have to unload your frustrations with this lop-sided poll.
So have at it. Wlad very possibly could have KO'd a careless Ali
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:08 PM   #164
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Ali would win 99/100 times. Wlad has a shaky chin and Ali along with any respectable ATG would be able to get past his octopus clinch and jab and shatter glass.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:03 PM   #165
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Wlad is a much better technical boxer than Ali, has a power left jab like Holmes had that backs his man up and finishes with a quick, devastating right cross or overhand right. Wlad is much taller than Ali and much heavier and stronger. Ali has crazy defensive skills and an epic chin. Wlad by decision.
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