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View Poll Results: How will it end?
50-0 Unbeaten. Beats Paq/Martinez at 154+ 34 34.69%
43-0 Unbeaten - no big challenges recently 33 33.67%
Loses once to an underdog. Retires 44-1ish 13 13.27%
Loses to Cotto - Jail - Retires 1 1.02%
Finally takes on a challenge and loses (Paq/Martinez) 17 17.35%
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:20 AM   #136
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Nah, Pac's handspeed was just too much for him IMO. That got Pac' into the fight and forced Miguel out of it. Cotto was okay for the first two rounds, got caught, and then it was over. Nothing he could do to change that because he isn't all that.
NEVER say that about Miguel. Please.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:29 AM   #137
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Nah, Pac's handspeed was just too much for him IMO. That got Pac' into the fight and forced Miguel out of it. Cotto was okay for the first two rounds, got caught, and then it was over. Nothing he could do to change that because he isn't all that.
Just keep thinking back to that moment when Cotto sort of rushed centre ring, unbalanced, and then Manny clocked him and knocked him down. That mistake only hastened the inevitable I agree, but Cotto had a rush of blood to the head there.
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@DFTaylor claiming his that a fighter's personality doesn't affect his opinion of them

That's like saying Rob Palmer is a nice guy.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:37 AM   #139
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@DFTaylor claiming his that a fighter's personality doesn't affect his opinion of them

That's like saying Rob Palmer is a nice guy.
It's true though - if we're talking about DeGale I actually don't think he's particularly special. It helps that he's a *****.

But I can't stand Bradon Rios, but I can rate him as a fighter.
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It's true though - if we're talking about DeGale I actually don't think he's particularly special. It helps that he's a *****.

But I can't stand Bradon Rios, but I can rate him as a fighter.
Bradon Rios? Has the GREAT GRAMMARIAN misspelt something

Or was he Paup Snith's last opponent?
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #141
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Bradon Rios? Has the GREAT GRAMMARIAN misspelt something

Or was he Paup Snith's last opponent?


I'm allowed to make typos!
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:03 AM   #143
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I think he'll retire undefeated after a couple more fights - probably Alvarez/Berto/Khan/Kirkland depending on how there careers pan out the next couple of years.

If we are lucky we'll get the Pacquaio fight when one or both are very close to the end of their careers and have slipped a fair bit (by their standards). Martinez won't happen.

On the fantasy scale i'd have him around the 50 mark (if he beats Pacquaio), to many guys from days gone by have much better records and better wins and I can't see him catching them now.

Great fighter but didn't challenge himself enough to make a big leap in the fantasy leagues P4P wise. Not that he should complain, that's a good spot, he's made lots of money and he hasn't suffered any prolonged beatings.
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@DFTaylor claiming his that a fighter's personality doesn't affect his opinion of them

That's like saying Rob Palmer is a nice guy.
Rob's sound, just a bit thick.

I genuinely don't let a fighters personality get in the way of objectively rating their ability. I would just be wasting my own time watching their fights!
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Nah, Pac's handspeed was just too much for him IMO. That got Pac' into the fight and forced Miguel out of it. Cotto was okay for the first two rounds, got caught, and then it was over. Nothing he could do to change that because he isn't all that.
Flea I think Oscar has a point because while Cotto was winning the first two rounds he lost the plot. Had I been in his camp or in his corner he would not have lost the fight because he had the tools to win. Pacman's speed can be dealt because he has technical limitations as proven once again by Marquez. Cotto's mistake was to deviate from what was working and try and impose himself as the bigger supposedly stronger man which played into Pacman's hands.
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Flea I think Oscar has a point because while Cotto was winning the first two rounds he lost the plot. Had I been in his camp or in his corner he would not have lost the fight because he had the tools to win. Pacman's speed can be dealt because he has technical limitations as proven once again by Marquez. Cotto's mistake was to deviate from what was working and try and impose himself as the bigger supposedly stronger man which played into Pacman's hands.
Cotto is no Marquez though and the first few rounds were really close as well. I personbally think Pacquaio is to fast and powerful for Cotto, I really cant see a way how Cotto wins that fight.
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I know what Cotto did wrong. It's because he simply isn't good enough. He's always had flaws. I love him and he's class, but not that class IMO.
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Cotto is no Marquez though and the first few rounds were really close as well. I personbally think Pacquaio is to fast and powerful for Cotto, I really cant see a way how Cotto wins that fight.
He's Miguel's worst nightmare due to his workrate and pressure as well.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:53 PM   #150
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this is what will happen to flloyd.

he has a serious gambling oproblem and he is a complete ****wit so will blow all his money and he will have to keep on fighting when it is gone. so in 4 years when he is skint he will have to fight again and so on. and at some point he wont be able to call the shots and he will get beaten by a young up and coming fighter.

he wont be able to pick and choose he will have a young hungry monster forced upon him and then we see him get his **** kicked and then we see if he has heart and bravery
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