Floyd Mayweather - How will it end?

[charlstonbigspu]

I don't think he'll take any challenges now couple more fight easy money and retire undefeated.

As has been said it'll be a waste of talent which is a shame cos he is the most talented since I started getting into boxing. But at the end of the day it's his own fault for not taking the risks.

[Flea Man]

I wouldn't even say that. His ability isn't proven in the way even Kalambay's is. Schooling an undefeated McCallum>>>Corrales/Gatti combined.

[Lilo]

Originally Posted by Spearmint Rhino

Floyd probably is in the top 25 for natural talent and ability, but in terms of accomplishments you can't help but feel underwhelmed.

I wouldn't go as far as to say he's never fought anyone (like I would with Calzaghe pretty much), but there's only a couple of opponents he faced at their most dangerous.

And a list of excellent opponents that he either didn't face or got at the wrong time legacy wise.

Bang on.

Just because he didn't fight them at their most dangerous doesn't mean their worthless victories, as is often claimed.

You know he's ever only taken two guys cherries (debutants aside), Corrales and Hatton - says a lot I think.

[Jimjom]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Only one of those is in my top 25 (Pernell) and absolutely no chance would I put Floyd in that company.

If he beat Pac' and Sergio he might break the top 50-60.

Interestingly flea where would you put pac if he defeats bradley and retires? I do think think it's absolutely crazy to make a case for him to be somewhere in the top 15, going by the people he's beat, I think top 25 is reasonable

[Jimjom]

Is he really that talented? He's a cheap version of Pernell imo, and I don't see why having that style automatically gives you talent points

[leo_messi]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

No he wouldn't.

dont be a retard.

I'm no fan, but you cant deny he is a great boxer and if he was to fight and beat pac and also Martinez at 160 he has to be considered right up there...

[12downfor10]

Ortiz would be too strong for Frankie IMHO. I do agree that he is an idiot in the ring and gavin would make him look stupid at times(especially with his footwork, which is great) but I still think Victor's got enough physical advantages to walk him down. He showed in the Berto fight that he can come through adversity.
On topic I think Floyd has 3 more fights after beating cotto. Pac will be one when Bob decides to cash in. Possibly the man at 140 in a year or two's time could be one and then canelo or sexy sergio. I think he'd win the lot as well.

[kosaros]

Why do people, who don't know boxing history to a fair extent, just throw around numbers relating to ATG standings like they have any credence? Obviously it's all subjective, but surely your understanding of an ATG list would be skewed if you haven't watched/studied all the greats to get a fair balance of things?

I admit that I don't know enough about the greats to formulate even a rough outline as to where I would place them in a list. That's why I won't be saying 'Floyd is top 10/20/40/60' etc. because it would just be a shot in the dark and hold no credibility whatsoever.

[Lilo]

Originally Posted by kosaros

Why do people, who don't know boxing history to a fair extent, just throw around numbers relating to ATG standings like they have any credence? Obviously it's all subjective, but surely your understanding of an ATG list would be skewed if you haven't watched/studied all the greats to get a fair balance of things?

I admit that I don't know enough about the greats to formulate even a rough outline as to where I would place them in a list. That's why I won't be saying 'Floyd is top 10/20/40/60' etc. because it would just be a shot in the dark and hold no credibility whatsoever.

No opinion holds real credibility here, doesn't mean I don't want to hear it. There are people here who have seen alot and was looking for their opinions on ATG standing.

Really though, the main question was how will it end for him i.e. 0 losses w/ challenges, 1 loss to a nohoper, or 1 loss in 50/50 fight or jail

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by leo_messi

dont be a retard.

I'm no fan, but you cant deny he is a great boxer and if he was to fight and beat pac and also Martinez at 160 he has to be considered right up there...

Still wouldn't, study more.

[nick_1204]

Id vote for the top one cause thats the only one that i think will happen but not 50-0

I think hell fight cotto, alvarez, pac and martinez and retire

46-0

We will be lucky to have all of these fighta and they are based on the others winning from now on but if we get 1 of the other 3 after cotto then i will be happy and remember mayweather as one of the true greats.

Remember hes 35, he doesnt fight that often so for him to fight all 4 he will probably be 37 by the time he retires

[rampant]

Originally Posted by kosaros

Why do people, who don't know boxing history to a fair extent, just throw around numbers relating to ATG standings like they have any credence? Obviously it's all subjective, but surely your understanding of an ATG list would be skewed if you haven't watched/studied all the greats to get a fair balance of things?

I admit that I don't know enough about the greats to formulate even a rough outline as to where I would place them in a list. That's why I won't be saying 'Floyd is top 10/20/40/60' etc. because it would just be a shot in the dark and hold no credibility whatsoever.

Im with you on this one, I dont know anywhere near enough to put him in at a number whereas other's may, (mainly Flea) but his hatred towards Floyd clouds his judgement.

In my opinion Myweather is the best boxer in the world and has dominated his era for many years, he will be an ATG regardless of where!

[emallini]

He only needs a few more wins to be in the Top bracket of ATGs.

Cotto Next
Pac
and Martinez

Thats it. He does that hes top 20 maybe top 10

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by rampant

Im with you on this one, I dont know anywhere near enough to put him in at a number whereas other may, (mainly Flea) but his hatred towards Floyd clouds his judgement.

In my opinion Myweather is the best boxer in the world and has dominated his era for many years, he will be an ATG regardless of where!

Would be wasting my own time if I let personal bias get in the way of ranking fighters. I can assure you, I don't study boxing like I do to exclude one man from a fair assesment due to my dislike of his out-of-ring persona.

[Jonsey]

43) Cotto May 2012 154
44) Berto January 2013 147
45) Pacquiao May 2013 147
46) Pacquiao 2 Dec 2013 147
47) Alvarez May 2014 154
4 Brook Dec 2014 154
49) Martinez May 2015 160
50) Andrade Dec 2015 154


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