Floyd Mayweather - How will it end?

[Jonsey]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Still wouldn't, study more.

Thought you didnt do things like this mate?

[rampant]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Would be wasting my own time if I let personal bias get in the way of ranking fighters. I can assure you, I don't study boxing like I do to exclude one man from a fair assesment due to my dislike of his out-of-ring persona.

Im confident with lack of knowledge he's up there with the best!

[Jonsey]

its utterly ridiclious to expect Mayweather to fight Martinez at 160lbs.

[Flea Man]

Again, I MUST STRESS, I am not downgrading Floyd or downplaying his achievements, it's more that putting him in the 'top 20' is dismissing those that have done more, beaten better fighters, and have worked harder to achieve the tag of 'greatness' (i.e fighting more than once a year)

It's not 'Floyd isn't good' it's 'Floyd isn't as good as these'. All my opinion of course, but I have a lot more to back up my argument that Floyd has plus points to his ring record.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Jonsey

Thought you didnt do things like this mate?

I got called a 'retard', go **** yourself.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by Jonsey

43) Cotto May 2012 154
44) Berto January 2013 147
45) Pacquiao May 2013 147
46) Pacquiao 2 Dec 2013 147
47) Alvarez May 2014 154
4 Brook Dec 2014 154
49) Martinez May 2015 160
50) Andrade Dec 2015 154


Top 10 of All time

No ****ing chance. Still be 30 fighters with better resumes than him.

[shaunster101]

Originally Posted by Jonsey

43) Cotto May 2012 154
44) Berto January 2013 147
45) Pacquiao May 2013 147
46) Pacquiao 2 Dec 2013 147
47) Alvarez May 2014 154
4 Brook Dec 2014 154
49) Martinez May 2015 160
50) Andrade Dec 2015 154


Top 10 of All time

More chance of Harrison KOing a Klitschko than those fights happening. Pie in the sky.

[Flea Man]

There is no way I'd rank him over Hearns. And I don't have Hearns in my top 30.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by shaunster101

More chance of Harrison KOing a Klitschko than those fights happening. Pie in the sky.

He already has him in his top 10 anyway.

[shaunster101]

Floyd has found himself in a situation where he has a platform to tell millions of people who don't follow boxing that he is great. Whereas past fighters had to fight the very best to prove themselves, Floyd basically has his own tv show and millions of dollars of marketing money to turn his ordinary opponents into great fighters, beat them, and then reinforce his claims in the minds of those who bought into the marketing.

[GlassJawsExist]

However his career ends, he is the best fighter of his generation by a country mile. There is nobody even close to him in terms of talent.

[dftaylor]

Originally Posted by Jonsey

its utterly ridiclious to expect Mayweather to fight Martinez at 160lbs.

Why? Martinez isn't massively bigger than him. Ray Leonard managed it when he was a light-middle at biggest. Ray Robinson managed it when he'd spent all of his prime at 147, and was past-prime for much of his 160 tenure.

Floyd always has an alibi for avoiding a challenge. Except for punching his baby mother in the mouth.

[FrochFan7]

Originally Posted by Jonsey

43) Cotto May 2012 154
44) Berto January 2013 147
45) Pacquiao May 2013 147
46) Pacquiao 2 Dec 2013 147
47) Alvarez May 2014 154
4 Brook Dec 2014 154
49) Martinez May 2015 160
50) Andrade Dec 2015 154


Top 10 of All time

[shaunster101]

I swear, the significance of weight is completely blown out of proportion due to the ridiculous emphasis that is now placed on receiving a loss on your record. It's used as an excuse so much ('i just didn't feel strong enough carrying this extra 7lbs . . . [despite weighing the same in the ring as I do every fight and not having to dehydrate so much]) that the idea of a fighter moving from 147 to 160 makes a fans head explode.

All this does is justify a fighter staying in is weight class and not taking the same challenges that would have been expected of them 25 years ago.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by GlassJaw***ist

However his career ends, he is the best fighter of his generation by a country mile. There is nobody even close to him in terms of talent.

Talent? What does that mean? I care about what fighters actually do, not how they appear.