Floyd Mayweather - How will it end? - Page 7

rampant · 04-18-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimjom

Not all of those are as good as it seems on paper though, he's a very good fighter, just not as good as many others

In your opinion!

charlstonbigspu · 04-18-2012, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rampant

In your opinion!

Whats the points of these posts your not contributing anything you tool. If you disagree with them give reasons why.

Olu G. Rotimi · 04-18-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Only one of those is in my top 25 (Pernell) and absolutely no chance would I put Floyd in that company.

If he beat Pac' and Sergio he might break the top 50-60.

I agree with Pernell Sweet Pea Whittaker being in the top of all time but surprised you have Julio Cesar Chavez not in there. Can I see your list so we can compare notes.

As for PBF I don't like to rate fighters until they have retired or there time is definitively over like Holyfield.

rampant · 04-18-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by charlstonbigspu

Whats the points of these posts your not contributing anything you tool. If you disagree with them give reasons why.

I have contributed Im highlighting that its his opinion not a fact! ok tool!

R.I.P Sky · 04-18-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimjom

Not all of those are as good as it seems on paper though

Yet four of them are future HOFers. When Mayweather easily dominates JMM for instance, its because Juan is a fat, old, bloated lightweight. Yet two years after Floyd playing with him, we all see what the fat, bloated, old lightweight did against the man that apparently Mayweather is terrified of.
Pacquiao gets passes though.

Lilo · 04-18-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by R.I.P Sky

Yet four of them are future HOFers. When Mayweather easily dominates JMM for instance, its because Juan is a fat, old, bloated lightweight. Yet two years after Floyd playing with him, we all see what the fat, bloated, old lightweight did against the man that apparently Mayweather is terrified of.
Pacquiao gets passes though.

This is a good point, poorly made.

Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 11:02 AM

Who rates fighters based on being in the HOF?

rampant · 04-18-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Flea Man

Who rates fighters based on being in the HOF?

Eh, the HOF!

Spearmint Rhino · 04-18-2012, 11:12 AM

To answer Rob's two points....

1. Floyd is as perfect a specimen for a welterweight as you could possibly find. 5'8''-5'9'', with a 70''+ reach and of solid build.

If other fighters - generally crap ones like Ortiz - like to bend rules to their advantage, and get knocked the fuck out anyway that's their problem.

Floyd is so good because he works on his skills rather than cutting weight. Leave the dieting/weight cutting shit to someone else.

2. Nobody expects Floyd to fight Martinez at 160. If he turns round and says ''you know what, he's too big'' I'd respect him more than saying ''150 or no fight'' or 154 even.

A welterweight champion beating a middleweight champion is huge - but do it the proper way rather than trying to cheapen it. Either properly or not at all.

I'd back Floyd to go up to 160 and beat him anyway.

Thing is - his ability is ridiculous, but so is the lack of desire to prove it. Can't understand it for the life of me. He'd have beaten the piss out of Margarito, back when he was close to stealing Vitali's ''Godzilla'' tag. Likewise Williams, Floyd would probably have just encouraged Williams into an inside fight and then tooled him about 10-2.

But you can't give credit for not doing something. Sorry.

dftaylor · 04-18-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by R.I.P Sky

Its amazing how some can say hes hardly fought anyone when hes got these on his record:

Diego Corrales
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Miguel Cotto next

People's hate for Mayweather just goes too far sometimes.

You have to account for the state of those fighters at the time.

Flea Man · 04-18-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by R.I.P Sky

Yet four of them are future HOFers. When Mayweather easily dominates JMM for instance, its because Juan is a fat, old, bloated lightweight. Yet two years after Floyd playing with him, we all see what the fat, bloated, old lightweight did against the man that apparently Mayweather is terrified of.
Pacquiao gets passes though.

Can't you fucking read?! Further to th list DFT quoted from you... Again, it's not 'Floyd ain't all that' it's 'Floyd ain't as great as these guys'
That is only a few decent wins. Even Ray Leonard has more meaningful wins than Floyd and he ponced about for years as well. Any of my top 40 will have a much more illustrious list of wins than Floyd.

Spearmint Rhino · 04-18-2012, 11:23 AM

Leonard's win over Hearns is better than anything on Floyd's record put together.

R.I.P Sky · 04-18-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

You have to account for the state of those fighters at the time.

And what state was that?

Spearmint Rhino · 04-18-2012, 11:30 AM

All of them apart from Corrales had seen better days.

Olu G. Rotimi · 04-18-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dftaylor

You have to account for the state of those fighters at the time.

Corrales was undefeated
Golden girl ODLH was Light Middlewight champion and had defeated Mayorga by KO. PBF fought ODLH at Jumior Midddleweight no catch wright crap.
Mosley had just destroyed the feared Margarito
I can go on and on but pointless as there is nothing wrong with Floyds resume.

View Poll Results: How will it end?
50-0 Unbeaten. Beats Paq/Martinez at 154+	34	34.69%
43-0 Unbeaten - no big challenges recently	33	33.67%
Loses once to an underdog. Retires 44-1ish	13	13.27%
Loses to Cotto - Jail - Retires	1	1.02%
Finally takes on a challenge and loses (Paq/Martinez)	17	17.35%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Spearmint Rhino Check Hook Boxing East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Check Hook Boxing Posts: 5,336 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd Mayweather - How will it end? To answer Rob's two points.... 1. Floyd is as perfect a specimen for a welterweight as you could possibly find. 5'8''-5'9'', with a 70''+ reach and of solid build. If other fighters - generally crap ones like Ortiz - like to bend rules to their advantage, and get knocked the fuck out anyway that's their problem. Floyd is so good because he works on his skills rather than cutting weight. Leave the dieting/weight cutting shit to someone else. 2. Nobody expects Floyd to fight Martinez at 160. If he turns round and says ''you know what, he's too big'' I'd respect him more than saying ''150 or no fight'' or 154 even. A welterweight champion beating a middleweight champion is huge - but do it the proper way rather than trying to cheapen it. Either properly or not at all. I'd back Floyd to go up to 160 and beat him anyway. Thing is - his ability is ridiculous, but so is the lack of desire to prove it. Can't understand it for the life of me. He'd have beaten the piss out of Margarito, back when he was close to stealing Vitali's ''Godzilla'' tag. Likewise Williams, Floyd would probably have just encouraged Williams into an inside fight and then tooled him about 10-2. But you can't give credit for not doing something. Sorry.
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Spearmint Rhino Check Hook Boxing East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Check Hook Boxing Posts: 5,336 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd Mayweather - How will it end? Leonard's win over Hearns is better than anything on Floyd's record put together.
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Spearmint Rhino Check Hook Boxing East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Check Hook Boxing Posts: 5,336 vCash: 500	Re: Floyd Mayweather - How will it end? All of them apart from Corrales had seen better days.
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