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View Poll Results: How will it end?
50-0 Unbeaten. Beats Paq/Martinez at 154+ 34 34.69%
43-0 Unbeaten - no big challenges recently 33 33.67%
Loses once to an underdog. Retires 44-1ish 13 13.27%
Loses to Cotto - Jail - Retires 1 1.02%
Finally takes on a challenge and loses (Paq/Martinez) 17 17.35%
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:46 AM   #91
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In your opinion!
Whats the points of these posts your not contributing anything you tool. If you disagree with them give reasons why.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:52 AM   #92
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Only one of those is in my top 25 (Pernell) and absolutely no chance would I put Floyd in that company.

If he beat Pac' and Sergio he might break the top 50-60.
I agree with Pernell Sweet Pea Whittaker being in the top of all time but surprised you have Julio Cesar Chavez not in there. Can I see your list so we can compare notes.

As for PBF I don't like to rate fighters until they have retired or there time is definitively over like Holyfield.
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:53 AM   #93
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Whats the points of these posts your not contributing anything you tool. If you disagree with them give reasons why.
I have contributed Im highlighting that its his opinion not a fact! ok tool!
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:56 AM   #94
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Yet four of them are future HOFers. When Mayweather easily dominates JMM for instance, its because Juan is a fat, old, bloated lightweight. Yet two years after Floyd playing with him, we all see what the fat, bloated, old lightweight did against the man that apparently Mayweather is terrified of.
Pacquiao gets passes though.
This is a good point, poorly made.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:02 AM   #95
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Who rates fighters based on being in the HOF?
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:07 AM   #96
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Who rates fighters based on being in the HOF?
Eh, the HOF!
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:12 AM   #97
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To answer Rob's two points....

1. Floyd is as perfect a specimen for a welterweight as you could possibly find. 5'8''-5'9'', with a 70''+ reach and of solid build.

If other fighters - generally crap ones like Ortiz - like to bend rules to their advantage, and get knocked the **** out anyway that's their problem.

Floyd is so good because he works on his skills rather than cutting weight. Leave the dieting/weight cutting shit to someone else.

2. Nobody expects Floyd to fight Martinez at 160. If he turns round and says ''you know what, he's too big'' I'd respect him more than saying ''150 or no fight'' or 154 even.

A welterweight champion beating a middleweight champion is huge - but do it the proper way rather than trying to cheapen it. Either properly or not at all.

I'd back Floyd to go up to 160 and beat him anyway.

Thing is - his ability is ridiculous, but so is the lack of desire to prove it. Can't understand it for the life of me. He'd have beaten the piss out of Margarito, back when he was close to stealing Vitali's ''Godzilla'' tag. Likewise Williams, Floyd would probably have just encouraged Williams into an inside fight and then tooled him about 10-2.

But you can't give credit for not doing something. Sorry.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #98
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Its amazing how some can say hes hardly fought anyone when hes got these on his record:

Diego Corrales
Oscar De La Hoya
Shane Mosley
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Miguel Cotto next

People's hate for Mayweather just goes too far sometimes.
You have to account for the state of those fighters at the time.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:20 AM   #99
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Yet four of them are future HOFers. When Mayweather easily dominates JMM for instance, its because Juan is a fat, old, bloated lightweight. Yet two years after Floyd playing with him, we all see what the fat, bloated, old lightweight did against the man that apparently Mayweather is terrified of.
Pacquiao gets passes though.
Can't you ****ing read?! Further to th list DFT quoted from you... Again, it's not 'Floyd ain't all that' it's 'Floyd ain't as great as these guys'
That is only a few decent wins. Even Ray Leonard has more meaningful wins than Floyd and he ponced about for years as well. Any of my top 40 will have a much more illustrious list of wins than Floyd.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:23 AM   #100
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Leonard's win over Hearns is better than anything on Floyd's record put together.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:30 AM   #101
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All of them apart from Corrales had seen better days.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:36 AM   #102
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You have to account for the state of those fighters at the time.
Corrales was undefeated
Golden girl ODLH was Light Middlewight champion and had defeated Mayorga by KO. PBF fought ODLH at Jumior Midddleweight no catch wright crap.
Mosley had just destroyed the feared Margarito
I can go on and on but pointless as there is nothing wrong with Floyds resume.
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And Corrales was struggling with the weight and about to be sentenced.

You can do this for anyone, and I do with the old timers as much as I can. But with Floyd, there isn't all that there.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:40 AM   #104
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He's coming off a loss and two bad performances against fighters Floyd beat clearly before he did. So yes he would be.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:43 AM   #105
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Drained him by 1lb?! He weighed 146 for Clottey.

I just gave him more credit for his wins over Shane and JMM than PAC has at 147. You are obviously a noob to boxing and a Floyd nuthugger
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