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Old 01-09-2008, 06:12 AM   #1
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Default James Toney ~VS~ Jersey Joe Walcott

this would be fought in the cruiserweight division. who takes this battle of the slicksters?
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:43 AM   #2
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At his best Walcott would win this quite comfortably. Toney was good, but Walcott was a lot better IMO.
Walcott is underrated. When he was on top form he was really formidable, one of the best heavyweights I've seen, one of the best ever.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:30 AM   #3
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James does have a big bag of tricks, ...i just think Jersey Joe has a Caravan full of Tricks, and the physical fitness to maintain them.
Jersey Joe for me, and James would have to be wary of that Walcott left hook !
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:44 AM   #4
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Jersey Joe would win not trying to diss Toney but at this weight Joe does almost everything better.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:06 PM   #5
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This would be a boring fight, but Walcott would win a clear 15 round decision.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:47 PM   #6
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Toney wins easily.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:17 PM   #7
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Toney wins easily.

And how would he do this against the pysically stronger Walcott, who hit much harder, had a much better stamina, etc.? Can you say it to me why? I know you´re a big Toney-fan, but it would be nice to see just for one time an objective post from you when it comes to a fighter you like/ dislike...


IMO Walcott had just too much on everything for Toney, he was also much more proven at the higher weights than James, so I have to pick Walcott... (UD, something like 8-4)...

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Old 01-09-2008, 06:35 PM   #8
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i have watched walcott and toney and imo toney gives the sly walcott a bad beating.

its actually toney that does everything better. toney said he copied his moves from great fighters like burley, charles and walcott. now when i watch these guys i notice that toney is waaaay more complete as a fighter in everyway.

walcott was so awkward, he just wouldnt be able to match toney in skill.
imo toney wins a decision but toney is no slouch when it comes to punching power!
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:37 PM   #9
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i have watched walcott and toney and imo toney gives the sly walcott a bad beating.

its actually toney that does everything better. toney said he copied his moves from great fighters like burley, charles and walcott. now when i watch these guys i notice that toney is waaaay more complete as a fighter in everyway.

walcott was so awkward, he just wouldnt be able to match toney in skill.
imo toney wins a decision but toney is no slouch when it comes to punching power!

Toneyīs resume at the higher weights is so thin, I donīt know how you can write something like that, itīs normal that you look better when you fight a Booker- guy instead of a Ezzard Charles for example, IMO itīs clear, here in this matchup it can only be one winner...
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:03 PM   #10
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In truth, James Toney never really did much after Roy Jones beat him up in 1994. At cruiser and heavy he lacks anything to compare to the level Walcott was at.

His win over Jirov was good, and then at heavyweight there was only really a win against a washed-up 40 year old Holyfield, and a win over John Ruiz, and the 1st fight with Sam Peter (many thought Toney was robbed).

Those are not the kind of results that would make him ready to beat Jersey Joe Walcott.

Walcott either won against, or was competitive with, JOE LOUIS, ROCKY MARCIANO and EZZARD CHARLES, among others.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:30 PM   #11
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A style that truly bothered Toney was Mike McCallums's. If there was anyone that is anywhere near to McCallum at heavyweight, it is Walcott.

Toney would also trouble Walcott with his speed, as Walcott would not have the same speed as McCallum.

I would pick Walcott by decision due to the heavier blows.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:08 PM   #12
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Walcott by wide UD.

Toney's resume is extremely thin at CW/HW.

In the ring he's not much better off - he's just too stationary. Walcott is too mobile and crafty to fall for Toney's tricks. Toney always ate up wild sluggers with his defense, but Walcott is too accurate for that, especially for the CW Toney.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:15 PM   #13
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I simply can't imagine James Toney beating Jersey Joe Walcott, especially not on the night that Joe knocked out Charles or battled it out to near death with Rocky Marciano. Toney would really have to show up with some tricks up his sleave to overcome him. Frankly, I think Toney was well past his best by the time he started fighting at the higher weight classes. Walcott's career on the otherhand, was pretty much just taking off around the age of 33. Pound for pound, I rate Toney higher given that he won multiple titles in a few different weight classes, but head to head, this is a bad matchup for James.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:35 PM   #14
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Walcott by UD, close victory
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:50 PM   #15
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Toney wins easily.
With a machine gun he does. Walcott would teach him stuff he never imagined. Wacott hit way harder, and ko'd Ezzard charles once. Toney beat Jirov.
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